SMN Why don't we hear about egi glamours anymore?

[MirronTulaxia]

At this point you've killed enough Primals to fill out a small bestiary worth of summonings. I mean, what elemental alignment ritual would you even use to summon Alexander and Ravana?

Alexander is Light, that's pretty consistent really. And Ravana, as mentioned, is Fire/Earth. There isn't really any elemental issues given Bahamut.

[Leidolf]

Alexander is Light, that's pretty consistent really. And Ravana, as mentioned, is Fire/Earth. There isn't really any elemental issues given Bahamut.

But light doesn't correspond to one of the six elements but rather a pole... which honestly starts making sense when you consider what light represents only applied to time itself. But with Bahamut you have a fair point considering the job quest involved. And as I've said before, if they want to expand the number of Egis you can summon despite the lore reason given in the Summoner quest for why no Ramuh-Egi, the events of Shadowbringer are a perfect excuse for expanded aether capacity. Just lock it behind a Level 80 quest.

[Exodus-E]

Alexander is Light, that's pretty consistent really..

Light is not an element, it's a "state"/polarity for aether.
So maybe Alexander was simply an unaspected Primal (towards "passivity"?).

Speaking of which, it'd be nice if we actually had confirmation on the aspects (or lack thereof) of every Primal introduced post-Ravana/Bismarck.

Anyways, and on topic:

Recently a LL rewatch came out and according to it, they are working on it, but they haven't decided on execution or something fundamentally basic. dont remember off the top of my head
In other words they have barely started

Back in the LL Revival of "Through the Maelstrom", yeah.

The moment they said that we could summon Leviathan in the future (years ago), everyone in the chat went nuts, asking about the current status of future Egis.

As for Yoshida's response, it was more along the lines of "not at liberty to say" or "still a ways".
If true, then at least we know they haven't forgotten about them.

So here's hoping they'll be coming sooner rather later (preferably before 6.0)...

[FoxCh40s]

Light is not an element, it's a "state"/polarity for aether.
So maybe Alexander was simply an unaspected Primal (towards "passivity"?).

Speaking of which, it'd be nice if we actually had confirmation on the aspects (or lack thereof) of every Primal introduced post-Ravana/Bismarck.

Anyways, and on topic:

Back in the LL Revival of "Through the Maelstrom", yeah.

The moment they said that we could summon Leviathan in the future (years ago), everyone in the chat went nuts, asking about the current status of future Egis.

As for Yoshida's response, it was more along the lines of "not at liberty to say" or "still a ways".
If true, then at least we know they haven't forgotten about them.

So here's hoping they'll be coming sooner rather later (preferably before 6.0)...

People need to let it go, theyve been keeping us on the hook since 2.3; then they made it worse in HW by including that information in the Job Quests.

Egi Glamour isnt going to happen, it's been a talked about topic from the devs, and them saying "Its coming" for nearly 6 years. The last time they spoke about it, they said "Oh yea, 5.1 will totally have it".

Just be like Elsa, and let it go.

[Exodus-E]

People need to let it go

Good luck convincing everyone else (especially overseas) to do just that.
Because I certainly won't.

Egi Glamour isnt going to happen, it's been a talked about topic from the devs, and them saying "Its coming" for nearly 6 years.

Right, then I guess those Carbuncles were never implemented in Patch 3.5.
Oh wait...

Just be like Elsa, and let it go.

How about no?
Also, if the devs' keep acknowledging them rather than outright denying them (like some other features), then it's safe to assume that they are working on them.

(on a side note, and by your logic/attitude, then we would never have had BLU as a job)

[FoxCh40s]

Good luck convincing everyone else (especially overseas) to do just that.
Because I certainly won't.


Right, then I guess those Carbuncles were never implemented in Patch 3.5.
Oh wait...


How about no?
Also, if the devs' keep acknowledging them rather than outright denying them (like some other features), then it's safe to assume that they are working on them.

(on a side note, and by your logic/attitude, then we would never have had BLU as a job)

Giving back the original Carbuncles we had before equipped the Soul Stone counts as glamour? Okay.... sure.

Blu isnt a job; it's a blatant waste of development resources that could have been used to fix jobs.

[Anvaire]

Giving back the original Carbuncles we had before equipped the Soul Stone counts as glamour? Okay.... sure.

Blu isnt a job; it's a blatant waste of development resources that could have been used to fix jobs.

Well considering it is giving the appearance of them... yes it is glamour. Blue mage is a job, its limited and bound to its own content, you may not like it, but others do so I wouldn't say its a "waste of development resources." If anything it is a compromise enabling them to add Blue Mage.

Returning to the topic of Egi glamour, If I recall they said they were adding them in HSW because they couldn't find a means to add new Egis and have them be meaningful. They also said they didn't know whether they would add them all at once or just one by one in patches, but they had to balance that because it wasn't fair to just give smn something. (Though since then i wonder considering the addition of performance) I suspect that the question remains a case of developing it on the side as and when they have the chance and also the question of whether to bother at all in case Egi's are removed entirely. (though i doubt that would actually happen, it would be remiss of them not to consider the possibility considering the constant dislike of Egis in general) Either way though, If they add them it is going to cause some development ramifications down the line because if they change the egi skills, they have to create new animations for each glamour. I think this is perhaps why they have been delayed. They changed all the skills in 5.0 so even if they had some complete, they would need to rework them because of changes to the new skills. It would also mean that they would probably need to wait to after they have finalised 6.0's smn before working on them again, in case the same situation comes about.

This is all conjecture on my part, but I think it is a reasonable assumption to make. Frankly, the devs know they are wanted and will do their utmost to provide them if possible within the resource they have. But it is not as a simple as slapping a new model and texture over the original and hoping for the best. I think people forget that sometimes.

[MirronTulaxia]

Light is not an element, it's a "state"/polarity for aether.
So maybe Alexander was simply an unaspected Primal (towards "passivity"?).

Speaking of which, it'd be nice if we actually had confirmation on the aspects (or lack thereof) of every Primal introduced post-Ravana/Bismarck.

Anyways, and on topic:

Back in the LL Revival of "Through the Maelstrom", yeah.

The moment they said that we could summon Leviathan in the future (years ago), everyone in the chat went nuts, asking about the current status of future Egis.

As for Yoshida's response, it was more along the lines of "not at liberty to say" or "still a ways".
If true, then at least we know they haven't forgotten about them.

So here's hoping they'll be coming sooner rather later (preferably before 6.0)...

Light isn't an "element" but you can still aspect Aether towards Light so it seems like splitting hairs in terms of distinction. If you can have light aspected Aether, which is what Sineaters and such are, then I don't see any issue with a Light aspected Primal. And Bahamut was specifically a Dark/Astral aspected Calamity.

[Grimoire-M]

Light isn't an "element" but you can still aspect Aether towards Light so it seems like splitting hairs in terms of distinction. If you can have light aspected Aether, which is what Sineaters and such are, then I don't see any issue with a Light aspected Primal. And Bahamut was specifically a Dark/Astral aspected Calamity.

Bahamut wasn't a Dark/Astral aspected Calamity. He's the only calamity that didn't have ANY aspect to it. That makes him the exception, not the norm.

[SpiralMask]

Bahamut wasn't a Dark/Astral aspected Calamity. He's the only calamity that didn't have ANY aspect to it. That makes him the exception, not the norm.

I could swear as well he was dark/astral-aspected, which was why he rocked the aetheric balance for the entire continent of eorzea at a fundamental level.

@egi-glam discussion: in the more recent restreams/commentary on the old liveletters, yoshi specifically mentions something to the effect of not being able to talk about egi-glamours for some reason (which to me implies some class changes would be incoming before those would be addressed, or they're tied to something specific (ultimate trials?))