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    Quote Originally Posted by Vyrerus View Post
    As far as Myste and Fray go, they are reflections of the WoL's soul and psyche, so in essence part of him. It's kind of like Multiple Personality Disorder/Dissociative Identity Disorder. They're all still the WoL, but they have their own whims and egos and wills.
    Yeah, but that doesn't answer the question of how they manifested physical bodies. (Fray's presence is somewhat ambiguous during most of the 30-50 quests, until the final one where he uses the original Fray's corpse before abandoning it to manifest as a copy of the player, but he does appear in the flesh in the 70 quest, right in front of Sidurgu and Rielle, so it's still relevant.) Are they more-or-less primals? Is it Creation magic? We don't really know.
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    Vicious Zvahl
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    Quote Originally Posted by TheMightyMollusk View Post
    Yeah, but that doesn't answer the question of how they manifested physical bodies. (Fray's presence is somewhat ambiguous during most of the 30-50 quests, until the final one where he uses the original Fray's corpse before abandoning it to manifest as a copy of the player, but he does appear in the flesh in the 70 quest, right in front of Sidurgu and Rielle, so it's still relevant.) Are they more-or-less primals? Is it Creation magic? We don't really know.
    Well it would seem to be fairly similar. I mean, Myste takes half of the WoL's aether to create the simulacra of the loved ones in the early 60s quests, and then Sidurgu and Fray's father figure mentor in the 65 quest, complete with wickedly powerful abilities, supposedly exacerbated by Sidurgu's memories of his mentor/adoptive father being unbeatable. But they're unlike primals or creation magicks in that they exert no will of their own, rather the perceived will of the person whose memory was drawn upon, and some of them know they are simulacra. They can't temper, and they are more or less real people until they dissipate since Myste can't manifest them for very long.

    Also when they do dissipate you get to take your aether back, it doesn't disperse back to the planet or anything. If anything they're most similar to the Memoria solo instance entities that we fight in Cid's memory. Only they are brought out of memory and made tangible in what's considered the physical plane of existence. It's probably attributable to Creation Magic, in the same way that Emet-Selch recreates a vision of his past, his memories, they are the same as that.
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