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    I made a 32-minute video about Eden

    https://youtu.be/R5eDvYPd2Fs

    By request from a couple of Youtube commenters, a lore video about Eden! That inevitably involves... well, not an explanation of FFVIII, but rather 'acknowledgement that FFVIII is beyond explanation'. But also a hefty helping of Ascian stuff, and learning that the Warrior of Light doesn't think as much about their adventures as we do!
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    Nice work.

    Couple things I would add, though don't detract from your video at all.
    At one point you say about Mitron being responsible for aquatic life and Loghriff for terrestrial, and say we don't know who would be responsible for airborne life? Maybe I misunderstood what you were saying but surely that would be Hermes/Fandaniel?
    And secondly, there's a few other nods to FFVIII though enemy models and animations. Voidwalker is in fact a recreation (and reimagining) of the Elvoret/Elnoyle boss/monster from VIII, and the model for Eden's Promise (I don't think you mentioned this but I may have missed it) is heavily based on Ultimecia's final form, right down to sharing many of the same spell/ability animations. Not a huge deal to have missed them, but they're cool details for the more perceptive FFVIII fas.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Seraphor View Post
    Nice work.

    Couple things I would add, though don't detract from your video at all.
    At one point you say about Mitron being responsible for aquatic life and Loghriff for terrestrial, and say we don't know who would be responsible for airborne life? Maybe I misunderstood what you were saying but surely that would be Hermes/Fandaniel?
    And secondly, there's a few other nods to FFVIII though enemy models and animations. Voidwalker is in fact a recreation (and reimagining) of the Elvoret/Elnoyle boss/monster from VIII, and the model for Eden's Promise (I don't think you mentioned this but I may have missed it) is heavily based on Ultimecia's final form, right down to sharing many of the same spell/ability animations. Not a huge deal to have missed them, but they're cool details for the more perceptive FFVIII fas.
    From what we're told, the role of Fandaniel is 'the pursuit of extant phenomena'. Basically, it's his job to understand the weather, magnetic fields (which were figured out by the Fandaniel before Hermes), stuff like that. Which is part of why Hermes knowing dynamis was important; as Fandaniel, he would've had to be on top of stuff like that anyway. Hermes just happens to also be good at birds as a separate thing, like how Lahabrea apparently had a talent for fire-aspected creatures.

    As to the models, I did hear the Voidwalker one before, but it ultimately got the cut because it's just an unrelated 'hey, that's neat' fact. Eden's Promise being Ultimecia-esque is new to me, and I kinda see it in its head shape, but when doing research the main thing for that boss is being based on the statue of Artemis, which is a pretty clear basis for the rest of the design.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Cleretic View Post
    Eden's Promise being Ultimecia-esque is new to me, and I kinda see it in its head shape, but when doing research the main thing for that boss is being based on the statue of Artemis, which is a pretty clear basis for the rest of the design.
    Ah, but what is Ultimecia (アルティミシア, Arutimishia, lit: Artemisia) if not a reference to Artemis? :P
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    Quote Originally Posted by Zero-ELEC View Post
    Ah, but what is Ultimecia (アルティミシア, Arutimishia, lit: Artemisia) if not a reference to Artemis? :P
    Oh, watch the video, I did mention how exactly 'Artemisia' became 'Ultimecia'!

    It's just a greater part of how the Ultimecia references in Eden are just a little harder to get in English because of a translation snafu over twenty years beforehand.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Cleretic View Post
    Eden's Promise being Ultimecia-esque is new to me, and I kinda see it in its head shape, but when doing research the main thing for that boss is being based on the statue of Artemis, which is a pretty clear basis for the rest of the design.
    Of course, it's essentially the details of Artemis, built around the skeleton of Ultimecia's final form. The head shape and 'headdress', the pose with the arms by the side, the skirt/butt-cape, it's much more obvious when you watch the animations side by side.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Cleretic View Post
    https://youtu.be/R5eDvYPd2Fs

    By request from a couple of Youtube commenters, a lore video about Eden! That inevitably involves... well, not an explanation of FFVIII, but rather 'acknowledgement that FFVIII is beyond explanation'. But also a hefty helping of Ascian stuff, and learning that the Warrior of Light doesn't think as much about their adventures as we do!
    Just insane!
    But, I don't want to click.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Naoki34 View Post
    Just insane!
    But, I don't want to click.
    I'd embed it if I could, but the forum software doesn't allow for that!
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