Add DPS roles to Warrior ?

[SamRF]

No? Tanks are already hard enough to come by, and you want to let 1/4th of all tanks play as dps instead?

Want to play as a dps? Level a dps, this game is designed around making leveling multiple jobs as easy as possible. Bored with the job you're playing? Well you can have an entirely different play experience with a literal click of a button. Same character, same account, same resources. Tacking on a DPS option to WAR just so some players can fulfill some aesthetic power fantasy just sounds silly.

Or people simply go play other MMOs which do have that type of class, or people don't even start playing FFXIV because it doesn't have that type of class. It's usually a very popular archetype (e.g. in WoW, the "Fury Warrior" spec has always been one of the most popular).

Don't underestimate how big of a difference it can make in player enjoyment for many considering if they can identify and express their fantasy archetype in a game or not. It's why when you google any MMO name, one of the first autofill suggestions is always "... classes", even for FFXIV the autofill "FFXIV classes" shows up (even though it's "jobs"). I believe it's people looking up which classes are available in an MMO before they even consider starting the game, I do the same thing before I consider another MMO.

Given the usual popularity of such archetype, could implementing it perhaps mean an influx of new players (just like how GNB might have drawn in some players)? Could it mean some players would be more satisfied (=more chance they stay subbed)? It's for SE to weigh that consideration I guess.

1 good point perhaps is the tank role shortage, I can see it increase if such job would come out and perhaps that's a big reason for why it's not on the table.

edit: note that I'm talking about a whole new job, I realize we won't be getting any diverging jobs from existing classes.

[Drez]

Or people simply go play other MMOs which do have that type of class, or people don't even start playing FFXIV because it doesn't have that type of class. It's usually a very popular archetype (e.g. in WoW, the "Fury Warrior" spec has always been one of the most popular).

Don't underestimate how big of a difference it can make in player enjoyment for many considering if they can identify and express their fantasy archetype in a game or not. It's why when you google any MMO name, one of the first autofill suggestions is always "... classes", even for FFXIV the autofill "FFXIV classes" shows up (even though it's "jobs"). I believe it's people looking up which classes are available in an MMO before they even consider starting the game, I do the same thing before I consider another MMO.

Then then should go play that MMO? Not every game is going to fill every desire for every player. If another MMO fulfills what someone wants better than XIV then they should be playing that game instead. If I liked WoW more than XIV I would be playing WoW I owe no loyalty to Square or this game. I'm not going to personally disregard the entirety of a game as huge as XIV because one class isn't exactly how I want it to be. That's just being short sighted and reductive.

Case in point: I was a Red Mage main in Final Fantasy XI for EIGHT years. When I started playing XIV I didn't jump up and down and throw a tantrum because RDM wasn't in the game at all. I found a different job that I enjoyed and played that instead.

[SamRF]

Then then should go play that MMO? Not every game is going to fill every desire for every player. If another MMO fulfills what someone wants better than XIV then they should be playing that game instead. If I liked WoW more than XIV I would be playing WoW I owe no loyalty to Square or this game. I'm not going to personally disregard the entirety of a game as huge as XIV because one class isn't exactly how I want it to be. That's just being short sighted and reductive.

Case in point: I was a Red Mage main in Final Fantasy XI for EIGHT years. When I started playing XIV I didn't jump up and down and throw a tantrum because RDM wasn't in the game at all. I found a different job that I enjoyed and played that instead.

I kind of explained my point in the remainder of that post which you didn't include in the quote. I'm just saying that it's something that may be worth considering. Nobody owns loyalty to this game, it's just about feedback and player satisfaction.

I wouldn't really consider it shortsighted if you decide to leave a game because it doesn't support your fantasy archetype, it's a RPG - role playing game - after all, and that aspect is more important to some than others (for their enjoyment).