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  1. #91
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    Grimoire-M's Avatar
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    Grimoire Mogri
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    Hyperion
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    Alchemist Lv 90
    Quote Originally Posted by dinnertime View Post
    ...That's if they actually decide to do that. I'm cautious they wouldn't since they go backwards with the feedback each start of the expansion.
    The biggest reason they need to address Ruin IV and Egi assaults is the fact they collide with Demi-Summon rotations. If they cut too far into the windows where you can use EAs and need to trim buttons to make room for new abilities then the natural thing to do is merge Enkindles and give Demi-Summons EA abilities. I agree it’s contingent on them adding another Demi-Summon but I don’t see them not doing that just because that’s SMN’s aesthetic appeal. Adding AoE variants of Bahamut/Phoenix that muck with their (relatively) stable tuning of AoE burst also doesn’t make sense to me.
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  2. #92
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    Anvaire's Avatar
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    Rihan Nurarihyon
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    Phoenix
    Main Class
    Summoner Lv 100
    I think the most logical thing for them to do would be to merge Demi- Bahamut and DWT and rework the rotation to be that of FBT - it would cut down on the multiple different systems and offer some kind of consistency. We would then just make Deathflare the Second attack. Could even have it change R3 to R4 and then remove its dependency of EGI attacks while also giving room for a further Demi/ trance. The problem i think with summoner is that it has too many individual systems that by themselves are good, but do not interlink with the other aspects of the job, thus we get locked out of major parts of our rotations at different points. Making these more stable, while providing room for an additional summon I think would play into the feel and lore of the job, while keeping the "evoker" aesthetic that the job has had since its inception. Personally, though i know its an unpopular opinion, i would be happy at this point to lose dots and Aetherflow and instead double down on the trance and summon mechanics. Somthing along the vein of a demonology warlock in wow (as its similar thematically) I am not saying a carbon copy of it, just look at the good parts and integrate them into the summoner while retaining its key features and identity. I really would hate for them to remove Demi's, egi's or trance as i feel these are the core of the job itself.
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  3. #93
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    MrThinker's Avatar
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    Jakaar Rakkin
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    Kujata
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    Paladin Lv 90
    So I heard that Yoshi-P said recently that egi glamours were still on the development table.
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  4. #94
    Player HeulGDarian's Avatar
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    Heul Darian
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    Moogle
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    Summoner Lv 90
    He mentioned egis he didnt mention glamours. Could be glam could be a change
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  5. #95
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    Source Eldion
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    Faerie
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    Scholar Lv 90
    Quote Originally Posted by MrThinker View Post
    So I heard that Yoshi-P said recently that egi glamours were still on the development table.
    Theyve literally been saying this for six damn years. It's just more bait on the hook to keep the fish interested. I honestly believe there is absolutely ZERO work being done on it, as weve been promised more Egi Glamour since freaking 2.1.
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  6. #96
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    Recon1o6's Avatar
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    Avarnia Corthal
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    Adamantoise
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    Dragoon Lv 90
    Recently a LL rewatch came out and according to it, they are working on it, but they haven't decided on execution or something fundamentally basic. dont remember off the top of my head
    In other words they have barely started

    I will until then keep dreaming of summon demi-alexander and ravana-egi
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  7. #97
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    MirronTulaxia's Avatar
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    Mirron Tulaxia
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    Sargatanas
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    White Mage Lv 90
    Demi Alexander would be great. But I really think they need to sit down and rebuild Summoner from the ground up. It just has a bit too much going on right now and finding a more happy medium would be ideal.
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  8. #98
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    Leidolf Kvasir
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    Diabolos
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    Paladin Lv 90
    At this point you've killed enough Primals to fill out a small bestiary worth of summonings. I mean, what elemental alignment ritual would you even use to summon Alexander and Ravana?
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  9. #99
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    Recon1o6's Avatar
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    Avarnia Corthal
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    Adamantoise
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    Dragoon Lv 90
    Ravana is aspected to both fire and earth, the warring triad to 3 elements

    alexander, light, but I more thought demi alexander is exactly that- a replacement for bahamut
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  10. #100
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    Rihan Nurarihyon
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    Phoenix
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    Summoner Lv 100
    I know it really unlikely, but id love a demi-innocence summon. It would solve the lore issue as well.
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