SMN Why don't we hear about egi glamours anymore?

[Morningstar1337]

I think a decent rework would be to chnage the Egi system into Demi-(insert respective pets here) and have the pets work as they are for ARC and SCH. for starters have a Demi-Garuda, Demi-Titan and Demi-Ifrit, but I'm not certain how they work differently from the Egis (and more specifically if they need a Trance to work, cause if so it might complicate the leveling experience)

I would also try to chnage the DOTs to be more flavorful and keep the poison theme on SCH. For example have Bio be Ramuh-themed, Miasma be Shiva (or Garuda)-themed and have another for Leviathan.

From there we can make retrofit the egi glamour into fitting the Demi summons with new carbuncle forms for Bahamut and Phoenix (Moonstone and Sunstone) as well as new colors for the existing carbuncles (Amethyst, Sapphire and Aquamarine). Other forms would be the Eden versions of the 2.X primals.

Lastly would be a Trance for Shiva is she doesn't go into the demi glamour system, as there would be personal reasons why the WoL would invoke the Lady of Frost much like there would be one for Phoenix.

[OvernightSiren]

Still hoping, as always, for SE to at least mention this again

[Payadopa]

What I really dislike about SMN (apart from removing the whole pet aspect) is the fact that I can't choose whether to summon Phoenix or Bahamut. Really annoys me.

[OvernightSiren]

What I really dislike about SMN (apart from removing the whole pet aspect) is the fact that I can't choose whether to summon Phoenix or Bahamut. Really annoys me.

Well that's part of the gameplay. They do totally different things so they're part of a rotation

[OvernightSiren]

Is there an upcoming Q&A live letter where we can ask about it?

[dinnertime]

Well that's part of the gameplay. They do totally different things so they're part of a rotation

No they don't. Phoenix is just a Bahamut reskin with bigger damage, two upgraded attacks that only you can use while its out, and a regen slapped onto it. If they did totally different things, that's more reason to have a decision to pick from the two.

Eventually they'll have another Demi summon added in the next expansion and if they keep the "Bahamut> Phoenix> New Demi summon" formula, the rotation would get so long and bloated.

[Grimoire-M]

No they don't. Phoenix is just a Bahamut reskin with bigger damage, two upgraded attacks that only you can use while its out, and a regen slapped onto it. If they did totally different things, that's more reason to have a decision to pick from the two.

Eventually they'll have another Demi summon added in the next expansion and if they keep the "Bahamut> Phoenix> New Demi summon" formula, the rotation would get so long and bloated.

Not really. The new Demi-Summon would replace Summon Bahamut after FBT is triggered and would occupy the current dead space between FBT and DWT just fine. Where I think it gets problematic is with the Egi management long term. Either they’re gonna see that upgrade they need to get or Bahamut will be merged with DWT properly next expansion, with the other likely to follow suit at some point. What I’m expecting come 6.0 is the merging of Enkindle abilities as well as an overhaul of Egi Assaults and Ruin IV to make them integrate better into Demi-Summons and Trances.

What I am hoping for is either Demi-Alexander giving us access to Punishing Heat, Divine Spear, and Mega Holy, or an upgrade to Demi-Bahamut with proper Akh Morn spam (with the appropriate tuning) and Morn Afahs.

[dinnertime]

Not really. The new Demi-Summon would replace Summon Bahamut after FBT is triggered and would occupy the current dead space between FBT and DWT just fine. Where I think it gets problematic is with the Egi management long term. Either they’re gonna see that upgrade they need to get or Bahamut will be merged with DWT properly next expansion, with the other likely to follow suit at some point. What I’m expecting come 6.0 is the merging of Enkindle abilities as well as an overhaul of Egi Assaults and Ruin IV to make them integrate better into Demi-Summons and Trances.

...That's if they actually decide to do that. I'm cautious they wouldn't since they go backwards with the feedback each start of the expansion.

[SpiralMask]

i'd take some warring triad ones (zurv/ifrit, sophia/garuda, sephirot/titan), certainly. OP's got a solid handle on the fitting options, i'd say

(late to the party and not really going for a discussion on class balance in a thread about aesthetics--the theoretical that they are pruned from the class is a whole separate matter likewise unrelated to this thread)

[HeulGDarian]

Id take fixing the job so that everything works together over another demi. Especially when the demis themselves are still littered with bugs.