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    OnyxBlackheart's Avatar
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    Sheida Djt-gilda
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    HEMA LS/fencing tournament 2012-14. Is what you're looking for. Finals to be specific. I am on phone in a crappy area, not gonna wait for buffering. I concede though, you may be right it could be taken from Cloud as he did come first.


    Quote Originally Posted by TouchandFeel View Post
    The animations are virtually the same and I stated the vfx were different. Are they 100% exact replicas? No and I never stated such, even explicitly pointing out a major difference, however with two ability animations that have the player raise a large 2-handed sword above their head before slamming the ground with it and producing a burst of energy that moves out in a line to strike the enemy, the connection should be apparent.
    Cloud brings his sword across his shoulder then sends out a line wave.
    DP is an actual overhead slash as taken with any large sword from any swordsman. The animations are not virtually the same barely even close to replicas (note in ff7 Cloud does make overhead slashes so it's intended for it to be over the shoulder). Overhead slash vs overshoulder slash. That is a reach to say they're the same, similar, or one inspired the other. There is no apparent connection to say it's inspired from Cloud over actual swordsmanship. REACH
    FYI, DP the sword actually never touches the ground, even with the fattest weapon in game. Unless coincidence, you can't call it slamming it to the ground. Always hovers just above it.


    Quote Originally Posted by TouchandFeel View Post
    This is the only one that I feel is potentially up to debate yet has noticeable similarities, hence the "it could easily be considered to be inspired by".
    It could it be considered inspired by due to the emphasis of being a three-fold attack, which was a major aspect of Cross Slash. I also see similarities between the animations, particularly the cadence of the slashes, however how similar they are I will leave up to the interpretation of the viewer.
    There is no debate unless someone is that thirsty for DRK skills to be inspired by Cloud that they force see something not there. Cross slash is an overhead slash into two horizontal slashes. CnS is in short 3 vertical slashes. If one can look at both videos you posted and think "Hmm CnS is potentially inspired by this, they're kinda similar" they're blind af. So by your logic any 3 fold slash in any FF game after 7 could be inspired by Cloud? REACH



    Quote Originally Posted by TouchandFeel View Post
    Or you could simply be choosing to not see what is there for some reason or to simply be brusquely argumentative for no reason.
    Whose to say? Both seem potentially valid and I guess it depends on who brings the better reasoning and evidence for people to decide which they feel is the case.
    Or you could simply be trying to force see some skill(s) of DRK to be inspired by Cloud or to be excessively thirsty for it, for no reason. Whose to say?

    Anywho you can see what you wish was just silly the amount of reaching for skills to be similar.
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    Last edited by OnyxBlackheart; 05-21-2020 at 03:09 AM.