Male Viera as a playable character! show your support

[Melichoir]

Oh I forgot. The devs really put in the work. They probably didn't have as much gear to worry about like they do now though.

See here's the thing. While they were doing development, my impression was that they didnt actually start developing Hrothgar/Viera models and the like until midway through SB. And even then they hamstringed themselves by changing course and developing Viera 'last minute'. If they plan from the outset of ShB to introduce Male Viera and Fem Hrothgar, theyll be much better off. Itll still be a huge time sink, but it wont be as bad development wise as they currently got it.

They still need to fix customization on Hrothgar and Viera though, so I dunno. Maybe theyre just devoting time to that in particular.

[Zanarkand-Ronso]

I just... kinda want manbunny/lionlady NPC to come along and tease us with HOPE. "I am here. I am not ready to be given to you players, but I'm coming along."

Heh weird, I dont know if I can find it again because of how many pages there are now, but someone said that an NPC but no playable Male Viera or Female Hrothgar would just be an insult and kick in the balls to everyone thats wants it.
Now there is someone saying they Want an NPC as a sign and reference to their coming.
Its very entertaining to see how the mood and opinion in this thread shifts so much.

Where did Fran show up? I don’t recall seeing her. Probably a crossover event I missed I’m guessing?

Fran shows up during the Ivalice Raid Questline, she wasn't in the MSQ or any event.

[Senn]

Its very entertaining to see how the mood and opinion in this thread shifts so much.

Everyone has their own opinion. I don't know how this thread is different than others in this regard. I don't see you going into the geomancer thread and saying you find it entertaining to see how the mood and opinion shifts in that thread; some people want geo to be dps, tank, or healer, and others think it's lame as a concept. We're not a hive-mind.

Anyway, I don't think we'll see a m viera / f hrothgar npc until the dev team have decided to add them as playable characters in the game as well. I remember reading that the devs chose not to give npc f viera and m hrothgar headgear to begin with because that gear would not be available to players right away. They didn't want players getting upset that they can't wear headgear while the npcs could. I think the same logic would apply to the other genders as well. If we do see npc m viera and f hrothgar in the future, that most likely means we'll get them as playable characters later on.

[WhiteArchmage]

Different people would want different things. Some would see it as a slap in the face to see a random NPC getting something we players can't (as evidenced whenever a non-unique NPC gets options that aren't available in the CC for their clan/gender combo, one needs only walk into the CC-expansion threads to see that), others would see it as a positive sign (after all, if there's a model now released, it could be modified to be playable)

I'm of the mind that we may see a FemHroth at some point in the Bozja storyline, perhaps at the tail end (pun unintended). Because by then it'd be past the concept art, model build, playtest, QA, and veto stages. It'd mean the team had been working on them, we'd be sure that's how the XIV-team envision them AND, with one or several models out, that there's a high chance they could be playable.

In fact, we can consider that it's been WOMEN so far who have introduced playable races. Merlwyb in 1.x to Roegadames in 2.0, Yugiri in 2.1 to Au Ra in 3.0, Fran in 4.5 to Viera (though seeing as how Viera and Hroth both count and don't as a "separate race"...) in 5.0. It would be a DELIGHT for an important FemHroth to show up in 5.4-5.

[Roda]

I just... kinda want manbunny/lionlady NPC to come along and tease us with HOPE. "I am here. I am not ready to be given to you players, but I'm coming along."

Like Yugiri and Fran did. Didn't play during ARR, so I could not join in guessing WTH Yugiri was under the hood. But Fran made me super duper happy during SB. Heck, even Tsukuyomi made me question things way back when. "Is this hint?"

Was the easter cotume hint??? Waiting is the worst and best part at the same time, siiigh... X__X

I mean we have this

which is a start...

[Allegor]

Lion ladies gonna be thicc

[BiddyBatnana]

I mean we have this

which is a start...

I want to believe it's a teaser as well
I like the idea of female Hrothgar.

[Anvaire]

I want to believe it's a teaser as well
I like the idea of female Hrothgar.

I agree I think it is likely we will see more teasers as the relic quest progresses. It might also explain why there hasn't been any updates to the hat situation for FV and MH. Why would you go and fix something when you will have to revisit in due course for the other gender you are developing? (assuming this is the case) why not delay it slightly to do all 3 at the same time?

It might not be the case, and I'm certainly NOT saying it as an absolute, but it is something to consider i think.

[Roda]

Lion ladies gonna be thicc

As they should be.

[Zanarkand-Ronso]

Everyone has their own opinion. I don't know how this thread is different than others in this regard. I don't see you going into the geomancer thread and saying you find it entertaining to see how the mood and opinion shifts in that thread; some people want geo to be dps, tank, or healer, and others think it's lame as a concept. We're not a hive-mind.

Anyway, I don't think we'll see a m viera / f hrothgar npc until the dev team have decided to add them as playable characters in the game as well. I remember reading that the devs chose not to give npc f viera and m hrothgar headgear to begin with because that gear would not be available to players right away. They didn't want players getting upset that they can't wear headgear while the npcs could. I think the same logic would apply to the other genders as well. If we do see npc m viera and f hrothgar in the future, that most likely means we'll get them as playable characters later on.

Sometimes it does feel like a Hivemend in here, Alot of people say the same things and think the same as a collective. But hey, its a thread about Male Viera Support.
No reason to go to the Geomancer thread and say the same thing, that thread doesn't have over a thousand pages of conversation going around in a cycle.
But anyway, I didnt come here to spark or get into another dumb argument.

Wish we could apply that logic to other races. Be cool if we got the Lupin or many others since they already have NPC models. But ah well Who knows, could always happen like Male Viera and Female Hrothgar.