Male Viera as a playable character! show your support

[Anvaire]

"Listening to us" gives them actual staff and resources to make the "missing genders"? You know, the actual reason why they only added one gender of each?

And with Covid and the next patch being delayed on top of it?

TBH I think if they were going to add them, then it is likely they had already started prior to Covid. While I don't doubt a patch delay is caused by Covid, depending on what assets are actually the cause behind the delay, it may be that the effect on the expansion is limited. So I wouldn't discount it just yet. If anything, what is likely is the entire schedule will shift, meaning future patches and expansion will come later than they normally would have. irrespective of this, I am sure the devs will do their utmost. I personally don't mind waiting a bit longer for the expansion if it means they have an easier time getting back on schedule.

[Melichoir]

TBH I think if they were going to add them, then it is likely they had already started prior to Covid. While I don't doubt a patch delay is caused by Covid, depending on what assets are actually the cause behind the delay, it may be that the effect on the expansion is limited. So I wouldn't discount it just yet. If anything, what is likely is the entire schedule will shift, meaning future patches and expansion will come later than they normally would have. irrespective of this, I am sure the devs will do their utmost. I personally don't mind waiting a bit longer for the expansion if it means they have an easier time getting back on schedule.

My initial assumptions was that they had went from 2 to 1 dungeons per patch was because they could be working on things for Hrothgar/Viera. With the announcement of Flying in ARR zones, that would more than enough explain said changes to delivery, because hat is a lot of map geometry and what not they have to go through.

As a result, Im a bit skeptical now if we'll see anything for Viera or Hrothgar within this xpac. However, the only saving grace is the fact that customization for Hrothgar and Viera is still busted. They havent given a whole lot in regards to customization options, let alone the ease of doing it. They are still half complete compared to every other race. This could be (and I know its a stretch) simply a situation where theyre fixing the system from the ground up. Meaning, there's no point in releasing small updates here and there if they were gonna tear it all down and fix it from scratch.

As for Male Viera and Fem Hrothgar - I dont see them being added until the next xpac if at all. It wo uldnt be a new race, but it could turn a negative from this xpac into a pretty strong selling point for the next one. This may be the plan, as it were, simply because itll give them time (again) to fix customization issues, and it can be a big hint/reveal/oh snaps moment to start hyping people for the next xpac by having Male Viera and Fem Hrothgar get revealed at the end of the ShB relic weapon quest. Considering that a lot of it deals with the past and Bozja and what not, it seems unusual that you wouldnt see any female hrothgar, at the least.

But thats all speculation on my part. Guess we'll see.

[Senn]

Seems like we got a new race every other expansion in the past.
ARR (nothing? or did male miqo'te come out around this time, idk been a while), HW (au ra), SB (nothing), ShB (viera & hrothgar). So I don't know if there will be m viera/f hrothgar next expansion, that is if we get them at all.

Seems like it would be the expansion after our next one. Though I have speculated in the past that because of the overwhelming amount of gear the devs would have to adjust to fit m viera & f hrothgar, they might make the decision to make the other genders sooner rather than later. Or else all that gear would pile up and it'll be even more work. I just don't think we'll get them any time soon, but who knows.

[MirronTulaxia]

It would be nice to see them. Or if they could add more diversity to existing body types I might not mind as much. As is male Viera seem plausibly along the lines of a race I'd like.

[Roda]

Seems like we got a new race every other expansion in the past.
ARR (nothing? or did male miqo'te come out around this time, idk been a while), HW (au ra), SB (nothing), ShB (viera & hrothgar). So I don't know if there will be m viera/f hrothgar next expansion, that is if we get them at all.

Seems like it would be the expansion after our next one. Though I have speculated in the past that because of the overwhelming amount of gear the devs would have to adjust to fit m viera & f hrothgar, they might make the decision to make the other genders sooner rather than later. Or else all that gear would pile up and it'll be even more work. I just don't think we'll get them any time soon, but who knows.

Arr was male miqo'te, and female roegadyn/highlander

[Senn]

Arr was male miqo'te, and female roegadyn/highlander

Oh I forgot. The devs really put in the work. They probably didn't have as much gear to worry about like they do now though.

[Burmecia]

I just... kinda want manbunny/lionlady NPC to come along and tease us with HOPE. "I am here. I am not ready to be given to you players, but I'm coming along."

Like Yugiri and Fran did. Didn't play during ARR, so I could not join in guessing WTH Yugiri was under the hood. But Fran made me super duper happy during SB. Heck, even Tsukuyomi made me question things way back when. "Is this hint?"

Was the easter cotume hint??? Waiting is the worst and best part at the same time, siiigh... X__X

[Allegor]

Tsukuyomi was more likely a take of the "moon rabbit" myth, it just so happens Viera are also bunny people. The relic weapon is heavily tied to Hrothgar lore so if a Hrothgal doesn't appear at any given time that'd be a huge red flag.

[AduroT]

Where did Fran show up? I don’t recall seeing her. Probably a crossover event I missed I’m guessing?

[Anvaire]

Where did Fran show up? I don’t recall seeing her. Probably a crossover event I missed I’m guessing?

she arrived with Orbonne monastery in 4.5 I think