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    Quote Originally Posted by faris View Post
    Why do you even think we're getting a bonus for not playing the game? This could well be accumulated bonus time under a guardian's aspect /exp band-like effect which is proportionate to the amount of time you haven't played. Nothing about the announcement says anyone's going to log in and suddenly get a notification that they've got 5k exp out of nowhere.
    Never said get 5k exp out of nowhere. Either way that's not the point, it says when logging out you get a exp bonus deal when logging out of your house. SOOO that means, when you are offline you get a bonus when you log back in. It's probably dependent on how long you have been logged out for. Either way, there should be no rewards for people not playing the game....
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    Quote Originally Posted by Rokien View Post
    Why should you get a bonus for not even playing the game?
    Here is a pretty decent explanation for the resting system, taken from a Wiki Page for that other MMO:

    Rest is a device that allows more casual gamers to stay somewhat on par with other players, as to character level. It's also a clever device to encourage less-active players to keep their accounts, making players want to come back and play some more after some time away from the game. Rest also adds more value to the subscription fee. In light of the controversy of game addiction, rest also gives players reason to cease play. Blizzard has also stated that World of Warcraft play should be taken in moderation according to loading screen tips.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Rokien View Post
    Never said get 5k exp out of nowhere. Either way that's not the point, it says when logging out you get a exp bonus deal when logging out of your house. SOOO that means, when you are offline you get a bonus when you log back in. It's probably dependent on how long you have been logged out for. Either way, there should be no rewards for people not playing the game....
    It totally doesn't mean that at all. It could apply to what I mentioned, but you're only applicable to start "storing" the bonus if you logout/exit the game inside your house. I really think you're making a massive kneejerk reaction over what you don't know, and what could possibly be nothing.
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    Quote Originally Posted by faris View Post
    No disrespect here, but I'd wait and see before complaining. By all means, if it is rested exp then you're right. But just wait for more details first?
    I'll gladly play wait and see, but if you dont tell them that Rested XP is a bad Idea now, they will not be able to fix it for a long time. At least if they know now, they can plan for a fix.
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    Quote Originally Posted by northernsky View Post
    There are 2 parallel discussions going on here, so just to make sure; Do some people think that you actually get xp for not playing?
    Rest XP is the effect of gaining a percentage increase in your XP for a predetermined amount based on the amount of time you are logged out.

    If a person does not play and then logs in to 150% xp/kill or quest or leve, that is getting XP for not playing the game. Yes, it is the same thing as GA. The difference, everyone gets GA and you can pick where you use it.

    Rested XP is a gimmick for getting casual players in to the game, but all it really does is dramatically reduce gameplay time.

    We already get 700-1000 xp per kill in parties, Do we really need it to be bumped back up to 1500?
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    From what I've noticed in XI, and even XIV during fatigue, it probably won't be that noticeable of a difference.

    It really is just opposite fatigue, which is what a lot of people were wanting in the first place. It's the same as the experience rings in XI. People didn't really hate those. This is only serving to close the disparity in levels and it probably won't even be that effective at the end of the day anyways.

    Hardcore levelers will still be getting more experience points than the ones who aren't leveling at all despite the bonus the causals get. Don't worry, they won't catch up. They'll never catch up unless you stop, but you're never going to stop so stop worrying. It just adds an extra incentive for when a casual player logs back in once per day/week/month or however they're going to institute it and they can say "Oh hey, I think I'll play until my bonus wears off then go see what's up with (insert whatever the hell the player wants to do here)".

    Also, groundwork for levels above 50. It really isn't something to be getting so upset about in the first place. Hell, it may just be referring to logging out for 8 hours in your residence. Who knows? There isn't enough details but if so that's a great idea.

    XI used residences to help free up server space. If player residences are on a different server and 2.0 is going to have a map structure similar to XI (requiring multiple loading zones for each new map/area) then adding an incentive for players to actually go back to their home town is not only good from a technical standpoint but it will actually encourage the dispersal of players outside of Ul'dah.

    But geez OP, I'm paddling a canoe down your river of tears. It's really not that big a deal if you add a modicum of foresight.
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    Last edited by Rhomagus; 01-31-2012 at 09:50 AM.

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    I don't care what anyone says, my crafting classes will love this bonus exp.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Kiote View Post
    I'll gladly play wait and see, but if you dont tell them that Rested XP is a bad Idea now, they will not be able to fix it for a long time. At least if they know now, they can plan for a fix.
    What's to fix? This thread has 7 likes (in a 7 hour lifespan currently), as stated above resting adds:
    • A means for casual players to stay somehwat on par with their friends
    • Encourages less active players to maintain their account subscription
    • Adds value to subscription fee
    • Gives you a reason to log off
    • Before logging into the game, you are encouraged to play this game in moderation, rest facilitates that
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    Last edited by Nikita; 01-31-2012 at 09:53 AM.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Rhomagus View Post
    Hardcore levelers will still be getting more experience points
    See, I'm not a hardcore leveler, I'm probably a casual leveler, I don't want this, I log on to the game once a day, leaving me behind everyone else now... Seee my problem?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Rokien View Post
    See, I'm not a hardcore leveler, I'm probably a casual leveler, I don't want this, I log on to the game once a day, leaving me behind everyone else now... Seee my problem?
    It doesn't leave you anymore behind than you already would have been then. There is no issue in that regard.
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