Tales from Duty Finder: Some make you laugh, some make you cry. Let's vent.

[FedoraTheExplorer]

A votekick won't work if the party doesn't agree with it. Also I'd already waited over 30mins anyways to get into the dungeon. Might as well put up with it.

[Averax]

Just spent about thirty minutes in Dohn Mheg with this WHM who did nothing but stand there spamming all of their healing skills. All of them. Cure 1 to III. Medica I to Medica II. Kept using Plenary for no reason at all. Was constantly out of MP. Even saw some Esunas being thrown out despite nobody having debuffs.

Was interesting.

Was probably a boost who had no idea what any of their abilities actually did. Probably heard somebody say "always be casting" and took that to mean "spam your healing spells at all times"

[Kakiko]

A votekick won't work if the party doesn't agree with it. Also I'd already waited over 30mins anyways to get into the dungeon. Might as well put up with it.

That sounds like a WHM sprout I had in Malikah's Well a couple of days ago. They had a level 80 tank and a WHM leveled to at least 77 (can't remember offhand). They were with a sprout DRK who had just DRK and I think Dragoon in the 70s. I was on monk and we had a machinist, I believe. We wiped twice on the first pull. We then wiped 3 times on the first boss (with the healer being killed each time to the boss' spin-around move and subsequent aoe ring, and being unable to understand why they died; tank asked "why do you keep dying?" and the healer replied "I don't know what's killing me"). It was a painfully, *painfully* slow run and I wasn't really noticing anything until the lead up to the last boss. That's when I realized: All the healer was doing was casting Cure (not Cure 2, not Cure 3, just Cure). That's it.

So I asked in chat "Can... can I ask why you're only casting Cure?"
No reply from them or the tank.
MCH goes "It's a playstyle"

I'd already waited 38 minutes for the queue to pop and we were at the last boss at this point so it wasn't worth it to vote abandon (which wouldn't have passed because I believe the tank and healer were a pair, from the same server anyway), and I'd already spent 45 minutes (literally) in the dungeon. It was much easier to just push through the final boss and blacklist them.

Highly, highly suspicious that they were both jump potion users which I don't outright discriminate against but after watching them for about 45 seconds on the last trash pack and seeing literally nothing but Cure from them, and thinking back to how slow everything was (and realizing I hadn't seen a single Dia on anything or even an Asylum anywhere), I'm pretty confident in my suspicions.

[KalinOrthos]

Boy I love E6N.

• Died due to lack of heals during Garuda, despite being in melee; both WHM were doing Cure 2 and no Medica until someone told them to.
• Wasn't raised until just before Ifrit fell, died from lack of heals just after invuln period wore off. Raised midway through Ifrit phase.
• Died to literally no one taking tethers when I was targetted. Raised by healer blowing LB3 when boss had 1% remaining
• Told to be better

I would have transferred off of Crystal long ago if I hadn't already made friends here. I want to start getting back into raiding, but this garbage is so infuriating.

[Pepsi_Plunge]

Honestly, I don't know what's up with that dungeon anymore lately. I'm running it as a tank nearly every day and up until ~last week DPS usually was good enough to kill the second boss, the plant, before the second set of seets. Since then those runs are going downhill little by little every day. Not only did I started to see the second set of seets again, ppl were also ignoring the mechanic a few times so that we actually ha to deal with the adds. And then, today, while people were doing mechanics everything took like forever. We even wiped to the last boss. It has literally been months since I've seen a wipe in this dungeon, but today a lot of furniture got burned and the healer and a DPS died with the boss still over 50% HP.

I just said it, didn't I? It's going downhill little by little every day. Just got it again, I was tanking again.. and this time we wiped on the FIRST boss. The healer died, the SMN never raised them until both DPS died too and I was standing there with the Boss at around 30%, watching the brooms swiping over liveless bodies. What is going on? We killed him on the second pull, but I actually saw the broom-swap-mechanics three times! I never even knew he would do it again after the second time. If this is going on we will probably vote abandon on the next run.

[Mixt]

Story passed on by a friend of mine, he was the healer in this scenario.

*Big Pull takes forever, Tank has to use all of his cooldowns to live through it*

*Tank judges that another big pull is not going to work, tries to pull small*

*DPS goes LEEROY JENKINS and pulls more because he knows better*

"Oh no, you have doomed us all" Says the tank.

"Lol just use your cooldowns and you can never die!" Sneers the DPS, who's personal feelings and opinions clearly trump reality.

"I already used them" Explains the tank.

"Stop making excuses! Use your cooldowns" Demands the DPS, not caring at all that a recharging CD cannot be used.

*Skill Not Yet Ready* Goes the game.

"See, i pressed the cooldowns and nothing happened, because they are not up!" Answers the tank.

"I don't care, use your cooldowns" Screeches the DPS.

*Tank dies due to taking more damage than the healer can deal with, then everyone else dies too, wipe* Reality shows that it cares not what the DPS thinks.

"OMG TANK! Y U NO USE COOLDOWNS!? U SUCK!" Roars the DPS in a fury, angry that the universe does not bend over backwards to indulge his opinion.

"Oh for flips sake, i already explained, i used them during the previous pull!" Groans the tank in misery.

"STOP MAKING EXCUSES! REEEEEEEE!" The DPS screams in rage.

"...If that's the logic you want to use, DPS! Why u no do infinite damage and instantly kill all mobs!? U SUCK! REEEEEEE!" The tank uses the DPS's own line of reasoning against him in an attempt to show how dumb it is.

*DPS throws hissy fit because it's only okay when HE uses that line of reasoning, doing it back at him is tank ego and entitlement, but when he does it it's totally okay* The DPS cannot handle being confronted with his own behaviour reflected back at him, massive rage fit ensues

"...Guys, really?" Goes the healer, then abandons instance, because screw that.

I just don't even...

[darrkale]

Duty Finder dungeon getting more toxic for Duty Roulette: Expert? There a lot players are getting kick from party on low dps on trash and bosses. I thought Square Enix banned DPS meters. My another rant. Healers chilled out. Its hard for melee dps to do dps on dungeon bosses. When the tanks move the boss around the room. Plus we have to dodge AOE, SLASHES, LASER, AND METEORS from the boss in the dungeon. Please forgive us when we get hit and dps is not at max according your DPS meter.

[Xtrasweettea]

I just said it, didn't I? It's going downhill little by little every day. Just got it again, I was tanking again.. and this time we wiped on the FIRST boss. The healer died, the SMN never raised them until both DPS died too and I was standing there with the Boss at around 30%, watching the brooms swiping over liveless bodies. What is going on? We killed him on the second pull, but I actually saw the broom-swap-mechanics three times! I never even knew he would do it again after the second time. If this is going on we will probably vote abandon on the next run.

Dang, I'm sorry that happened. You don't even see three rounds of brooms when running with Trusts. That means these other party members did less damage than Trusts... and Trust damage is low to begin with.

[Pepsi_Plunge]

I thought Square Enix banned DPS meters.

You don't need DPS meters if you run the dungeon regulary (and there are only two dungeons in expert right now), because you get a feeling on how fast mobs are melting with a good group or a bad group. You see it also on boss mechanics. If you need to do the seed-mechanic on the plant boss for a second time, you know things are going slow. If you see broom swipe on the first one, you know you really are in trouble.
Also you don't need a DPS meter to actually see what your group is doing. If the healer is standing around doing nothing but casting cure 1 or physics on the tank or if you see DPS using their single rotation on trash packs you just know that DPS just can't be good.

But still, you are right, no need to get toxic about it. It only make things worse. Better to encourage your group - instead of throwing salt at them which helps nobody.

[Xtrasweettea]

Duty Finder dungeon getting more toxic for Duty Roulette: Expert? There a lot players are getting kick from party on low dps on trash and bosses. I thought Square Enix banned DPS meters. My another rant. Healers chilled out. Its hard for melee dps to do dps on dungeon bosses. When the tanks move the boss around the room. Plus we have to dodge AOE, SLASHES, LASER, AND METEORS from the boss in the dungeon. Please forgive us when we get hit and dps is not at max according your DPS meter.

Unless noted otherwise, I don't think there is an uptick in toxic behavior Expert. Myself and I am sure others haven't seen "a lot" of players getting kicked from the party for low DPS on trash mobs. Most of us suck it up when we see players doing low damage for various reasons.

Damage meters are banned, but as long as the user doesn't say anything within the game that gives evidence it is being used, SE will not do anything.

If the accused healer was running a parser, and you have proof through your chat log that the accused was, you can send a report to SE through the game's reporting function.

If the group was that toxic, then it could be viewed as a blessing for being kicked.