Raiding is becoming less and less optional

[Frizze]

Easy solution: So for the people having massive issues with this, i offer a solution. You have a legitimate gripe, and you dont want to run this content. Fine. Unlock the first raid. Get a group of friends together(you want a full group if you can help it, but 4 or more friends plus you is fine). Get them to run the content, while you actually afk. The raid will 23-man it with no issues. You just need to go back to the game every 5 or so minutes and hit a couple keys. No, not attacks or heals(we arent asking you to help or participate, just to be present). Just open and close a couple menus. When you do your 4th check in, the instance will be over. Now unlock the 2nd raid. Do this again. This time, the raid will be done when you do your 3rd check in. Final raid unlock, group up again. This last raid is easily the hardest of the three, and has a few actually interesting fights. Skip em, go afk. The raid should finish up between your 5th and 6th check in(its possible but rare for this one to go over 30 mins).

Alternatively, you could unsync the raids. The first one requires 12 people because of a mechanic that needs 4 standing on a platform for each group while the groups are in separated areas(in this case, you would take turns attacking - or if you had 5 per group youd just do it normally but with only one person going forward). The second could be done by 3 level 80s(actually 3 70s would be fine... im curious how many 60s itd take). Id probly want 6 people in a run of the third raid because of the atomos fight mechanics(if you go with 3 and all get knocked down at the same time without the jump pads being powered its a wipe because you cant hit the enemy), but 3 could do it with good coordination and DPS.

In the first case, you have completed this requirement without actually playing the content - good for you on gaming the system. In the second case, you technically played the content but in an even easier way then normal(and with less people, if the people are your issue). The third option is just do it like the rest of us did - not appealing, but totally doable. The fourth option, is that since this is becoming a story requirement then a story skip potion used after the change goes into affect would trigger these as completed(it sounds like the roadblock will be added pre-HW, so a HW skip should be enough - this is just an educated guess though, so purchase at your own risk). Option five then, is keep playing but stop advancing the story... kinda a sucky option. That leaves option six to quit - you do you. The final option(seven) of complain about it and hope they change the story thats already written and currently being coded and tested(along with voice acted in four+ languages) probly isnt a viable one. Choose what fits you best.

[Melichoir]

Thread's been pruned a bit. Oh well.

Snippity

At this point, itd just be faster to just bite your tongue and run the 24 man and get it done faster though. I mean this is still a non issue, the 24 man isnt that hard and gets blown out pretty quick. The irony is Ive gotten through CT faster than some dungeon runs Ive been in.

[Arngrim_Greyashe]

Man, I'm really tired of this mentality that some people have these days. You don't want to do it so you shouldn't have to? Okay, well that's tough stuff, bud. The raid is such a faceroll that it's laughable. Even bad players clear it with only one to two wipes per each raid. I just hop in discord with friends and we laugh our whole way through it. I get it, I get frustrated by bad players that think they don't need to improve. I'm not an amazing player by any means but I've done extremes and poked at savage here and there. But my point being (before I go off the rails any further) that you suck it up and deal with bad players. Complain in discord or voice chat to your friends. But bad players aren't a reason to not complete the Crystal Tower raid series. It's easy.