Raiding is becoming less and less optional

[Melichoir]

Thread's been pruned a bit. Oh well.

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At this point, itd just be faster to just bite your tongue and run the 24 man and get it done faster though. I mean this is still a non issue, the 24 man isnt that hard and gets blown out pretty quick. The irony is Ive gotten through CT faster than some dungeon runs Ive been in.

[Arngrim_Greyashe]

Man, I'm really tired of this mentality that some people have these days. You don't want to do it so you shouldn't have to? Okay, well that's tough stuff, bud. The raid is such a faceroll that it's laughable. Even bad players clear it with only one to two wipes per each raid. I just hop in discord with friends and we laugh our whole way through it. I get it, I get frustrated by bad players that think they don't need to improve. I'm not an amazing player by any means but I've done extremes and poked at savage here and there. But my point being (before I go off the rails any further) that you suck it up and deal with bad players. Complain in discord or voice chat to your friends. But bad players aren't a reason to not complete the Crystal Tower raid series. It's easy.

[FF16Necromancer]

I’ve never been a raider in any MMO I’ve played. That included this one. But Shadowbringers got me into it a bit because of Crystal Tower. This has prompted me to go back and do all of the old raids, and of course I did Eden and Copied Factory.

Then when the relic weapon was announced, it was revealed that you had to do the Ivalice raids in order to do the relic quests. And now it’s been revealed that starting in 5.3, CT will be required to advance in the MSQ. Or something like that.

This can only be seen as a pattern now. Raid content, which was always optional, is becoming more tied to the MSQ as characters and events that happened in the raids are having more and more impact on the main story. I feel like going forward, certain raids will be required to unlock other content as well. This is an interesting design choice on the part of the devs since FFXIV is not a raid-centric game. Or at least it wasn’t. The devs themselves stated that most people do not raid, yet now they appear to be pushing raids on people.

It’s also worth noting that raids aren’t really optional anyway if you’re really into the story, like I am. I realized this when I went back and did Bahamut, CT, Alexander and Ivalice. I skipped Void Ark but I’m doing Omega now. In each one of these raids, there are major characters and significant world building going on that really fill in the blanks of the overall history of the Source.

So, I’m wondering if this is going to be a thing now for the foreseeable future.

They're not that difficult so I don't see the big issue