Change The Rules For Leaving Dungeons (aka Why People Insta-Quit Castrum Meridianum)

[Tsalmaveth]

No, the reason the 30-min timer was put in place was to keep people from serial-jumping in instances that was happening back in ARR. They ONLY added it because people were jumping in and out rapidly to try and get in-progress duties. It is a cool-down. People need to stop thinking it is a 'punishment' against people who choose to use the options the developers put into the game for that very reason. The 'cool-down' was added because people went too far, as is the habit of people, and not to outright PUNISH the players. No one has the right to demand people stay in a dungeon or that they need to be PUNISHED for leaving, whatever their reasons.

[Mavrias]

There is a rather large divide between someone queueing for MSQ Roulette, loading in and suddenly being called away by an emergency, apologizing to the party and explaining why they need to leave and players queueing for MSQ Roulette with the explicit intent to abandon the other 7 people in the dungeon if the dice gives them the one they feel is less 'worth' their time.

Imma keep it real with ya chief, if i have to leave a dungeon for any reason, beginning, middle, end doesn't matter, i'm not gonna explain to you why.

Straight up no one owes you an explanation for leaving a dungeon in a video game. You're feeling way too entitled to other peoples time.

[Kuroka]

No its just being a decent person and say at least "sry gtg" - if youre this much of an jerk and dont care for others, well, fine...

[Awha]

No its just being a decent person and say at least "sry gtg" - if youre this much of an jerk and dont care for others, well, fine...

What does saying anything solve people are still leaving, so nothing changes. People leave dungeons they do not enjoy it is nothing personal, not sure why people take it as such.

[Mavrias]

No its just being a decent person and say at least "sry gtg" - if youre this much of an jerk and dont care for others, well, fine...

You gonna solve my problem for me if i tell you to get me to stay? You gonna make my dinner? Or walk my dog? Talk to the maintenance guy? Kill the S-rank for me? Help my friend with fates?

No? Then why do you care so much that I gotta tell you why I'm leaving? Mind ya business.

[Awha]

For the life of me I cannot fathom why people take leaving or even being removed from a party so personally. Just means that it was a not a good fit, sure people may have to wait but wouldn't it be better to wait for a possibility better experience then be forced to play with players or do content one may not enjoy? That seems like a recipe for a wonderful fun filled time.

[Arillyn]

Given that it doesn't really discourage anyone from leaving, and in the rare event that it does they just wait there to be kicked instead to bypass it, I would disagree and say there either isn't enough of a penalty in place or that the wrong approach is being taken. The whole point of there being a penalty is for it to be a deterrent from potentially disruptive behavior (i.e. bailing on your group). If it's not a deterrent (let's face it; it isn't), then it should be reevaluated.

The whole point was to stop people from jumping in and out over and over looking for in-progress. That was such a huge issue back in the day (mainly tanks) and why there is a cool down. Seriously - do you all have people bailing on your duty all the time? Even if I get CM there are lots of times no one ever bails at all. People leave a dungeon once in a while, but I rarely see it happen tbh. But if people need to leave - for whatever reason - so what? IDC why they leave, whether it's for personal issues that have nothing to do with the game or because they hate the dungeon.

And just to put this here again since OP was talking about CM specifically - you don't even need 8 people to clear it. But even if people bail, they always get replaced really fast.

[Kuroka]

Holy s###it some ppl lol

Anyways i just had the joy of having an dps insta DC when he saw we got Cosmea, after a few min he came back to insta dc again.

I wont argue with you guys as this is pointless... but doing a roulett is a deal, you get the extra reward, you do what you get. You dont like it? que for whatever you like, its up to you. If you break the deal, then there need to be consequences or we can scrap all the rouletts and only make direct ques.

[Arillyn]

Holy s###it some ppl lol

Anyways i just had the joy of having an dps insta DC when he saw we got Cosmea, after a few min he came back to insta dc again.

I wont argue with you guys as this is pointless... but doing a roulett is a deal, you get the extra reward, you do what you get. You dont like it? que for whatever you like, its up to you. If you break the deal, then there need to be consequences or we can scrap all the rouletts and only make direct ques.

There are consequences. You leave you get 30 minute penalty. I'm seriously having a hard time understanding why people think there aren't consequences already or why more is needed.

Edit: As for your instance, yes that does happen. But do you know why? Because of the 30 minute consequence. And it's not right, if you want to leave just leave and take the penalty. But there is no way that SE is going to punish players for a DC if it can't be proven that they are trying to circumvent the penalty because DCs do happen that are not intentional and SE has no way of knowing unless something is said in chat by the one DCing.

[Awha]

Holy s###it some ppl lol

Anyways i just had the joy of having an dps insta DC when he saw we got Cosmea, after a few min he came back to insta dc again.

I wont argue with you guys as this is pointless... but doing a roulett is a deal, you get the extra reward, you do what you get. You dont like it? que for whatever you like, its up to you. If you break the deal, then there need to be consequences or we can scrap all the rouletts and only make direct ques.

The consequence is the timer / not being able to play the game if the party refuses to remove the player from the group if they pull the DC card. I have ran into cases where the group refuses to remove the player that DC'ed in hopes of getting removed from the party to avoid the timer, but that is more so a choice of the group and by no means should SE take action against it because they likely would not be able to prove malicious intent.