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  1. #161
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    Imbrium's Avatar
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    R'khenna Tommo
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    Quote Originally Posted by rainichan View Post
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    2014, jeebus. Allright, if It's straight from the horse's mouth you can't get much better than that. Thank you!
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    Don't tell me I've had enough, there's loot to farm!

  2. #162
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    Elise Hamilton
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    Try playing Black Desert Online, you'll quickly realize how cheap FFXIV's mogstation prices are lol.
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  3. #163
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    R'lileen Min'enoth
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    Quote Originally Posted by RareItems View Post
    Try playing Black Desert Online, you'll quickly realize how cheap FFXIV's mogstation prices are lol.
    Underwear Chance+1 ... 15€
    Nice glamour... 30€
    Character and job locked, of course.

    And we can even buy 7days glamours (with "veteran" money... that progresses with connection time and... purchases in the shop)

    (More or less form what I remember, as range prices) Thought I really like the Lahn... I've decided to pass.

    XD


    Aion is kinda cheaper (to compare with BDO) but with sooooo many glamours it is insane.
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    Last edited by Eldevern; 05-01-2020 at 10:15 PM.

  4. #164
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    Fawkes Macleod
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    I don't mind the glamours and stuff in the mogstation, the thing that bothers me is retainers costing additional monthly fees. And worse than that is the $5 a month app. We originally got the chocobo saddlebag as the second half of the promised inventory expansion, but then they relegated a bigger saddlebag to an additional monthly fee, so they likely won't ever give us a free increase in saddlebag size. The app doesn't provide a useful service on its own so the only reason to pay for it is the retainer and saddlebag upgrade.
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  5. #165
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    Avi Taro
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    Behemoth
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    Bard Lv 100
    Quote Originally Posted by Eldevern View Post
    Underwear Chance+1 ... 15€
    Nice glamour... 30€
    Character and job locked, of course.

    And we can even buy 7days glamours (with "veteran" money... that progresses with connection time and... purchases in the shop)

    (More or less form what I remember, as range prices) Thought I really like the Lahn... I've decided to pass.

    XD


    Aion is kinda cheaper (to compare with BDO) but with sooooo many glamours it is insane.
    BDO shop prices are outrageous, but I will give them a few points back for the fact you can buy and sell a lot of those shop items in game. Somebody's shelling out insane amounts of cash, but I got a neat outfit for the low price of a lot of in game money and a good roll of the dice :P
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    "Run when you have to, fight when you must, rest when you can." - Elyas Machera, The Wheel of Time

  6. #166
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    Katarh Mest
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    Lamia
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    The retainers costing money is a legacy from FFXI, whereupon every extra character used to cost money, and we utilized those extra characters for item storage, earning them the nickname of "mules." At one point I had a base sub fee of whatever XI cost, plus an extra $5/month for each of the extra characters.

    For XIV, they kept the item storage aspect (what we really wanted), charged twice as much, added in a bunch more features (use to sell items and also to farm items while you are afk), and then failed to lock down the extra features past the first 2 that are included for free with the base game.

    Horse is out of the barn now. If retainers weren't anything more than mules were, it'd be a little less scummy.

    Not excusing it, just explaining it, and that's a fundamental mistake SE can't go back and undo. I think at this point offering up to 4 free retainers would help a little bit, but it's still "pay a little extra and get a lot extra" if you're an omni crafter and a fashion hoarder like I am....

    But hey, actual extra characters are free!
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  7. #167
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    Aranie Crowley
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    Quote Originally Posted by Catwho View Post
    But hey, actual extra characters are free!
    And you can't use them as mule cause you can't send them mails...
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    C'était en fait SE qui survolait Ishgard sur une liasse de billets

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    People don't know how to take criticism anymore, and bad play is rewarded with with a coddling mentality. Yes, this is a casual game for the most part - that doesn't mean people need to walk on eggshells in fear of getting reported for pointing out things. This whole 'please don't say anything even slightly negative' mentality that we seem to be going towards and the devs seemingly pushing towards it is creating a disturbing trend.

  8. #168
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    Kurenai Tenshi
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    Paladin Lv 100
    Quote Originally Posted by Eldevern View Post
    Underwear Chance+1 ... 15€
    Nice glamour... 30€
    Character and job locked, of course.

    And we can even buy 7days glamours (with "veteran" money... that progresses with connection time and... purchases in the shop)

    (More or less form what I remember, as range prices) Thought I really like the Lahn... I've decided to pass.

    XD


    Aion is kinda cheaper (to compare with BDO) but with sooooo many glamours it is insane.
    Adding to this. BDO has almost no in-game alternatives that are equally nice. You get the generic outfit everyone starts with and I believe two others. That's it. Everything else is through the cash shop at prices that make FFXIV seem cheap. Even better is furniture. You pretty much can't get furniture in-game but have to buy practically everything. Now I will say their housing system is better but still. Comparing FFXIV to a Korean MMO screams you've never played one.
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    "The silence is your answer."


  9. #169
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    Katarh Mest
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    Lamia
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    Warrior Lv 100
    Quote Originally Posted by Celef View Post
    And you can't use them as mule cause you can't send them mails...
    It was at one point possible to trick the server into allowing you to befriend your own alts, but it's something that has since been patched I think.

    Upon further reflection, mules in XI also did allow you additional market board slots - and allowed you to have a specialization in more than one craft, something not necessary in XIV. Only the most hardcore crafters had all 8 crafts leveled on 8 different characters, though.
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  10. #170
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    X'lota Qi
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    Lamia
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    Bard Lv 100
    Quote Originally Posted by Catwho View Post
    Not excusing it, just explaining it, and that's a fundamental mistake SE can't go back and undo.
    If you mean charging for retainers sure they can. They can just say "starting in November retainers will be free" then stop charging people the retainer fee in November. People who had them would continue to have them. Others can go and unlock them.

    But personally I rather have a normal bank and a materials bank, but you know, gotta fight the Flying Spaghetti Code Monster.
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