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    The FFXIV Cash Shop is greedy

    In terms of micro-transactions, the only game that is fair to compare with FFXIV is WoW because it's the only other big modern game with the same business model (B2P + subscription). Other modern games are either F2P or B2P and don't require a subscription (for which you pay at least 130$ a year).

    So let's compare the WoW Cash Shop to FFXIV's.

    I'll list how many items for the main categories there are in the Cash Shop from each game (Mog Station and Blizzard store) and then also compare that number with how many of those items there are in total (ingame: FFXIV, WoW).

    Cash Shop First Item release date:
    FFXIV: 2014
    WoW: 2010

    Mounts:
    Mog Station: 21
    FFXIV: 210
    Blizzard Store: 17
    WoW: 425 (358 currently obtainable)

    Minions/Pets:
    Mog Station: 33
    FFXIV: 737
    Blizzard Store: 17
    WoW: 1279

    Glamour: (not counting seasonal!)
    Mog Station: 81 (52 full attires)
    Blizzard Store: 0

    Some (few) of these Mog Station items are from events. Take note that WoW also has events and a bunch of mounts and items that are no longer obtainable. They don't offer them in their Cash Shop and let the players who did get them enjoy the rarity/exclusivity of their item. [Edit] The WoW items, while being way fewer in amount, are generally more expensive and for many double the price in Mog Station (imo what matters most is the amount of content that is behind micro-transactions, not necessarily the price.). All mounts are 25$ and all Pets are 10$.[/Edit]

    Other than these categories: WoW offers 2 Cash Shop toys (to be used permanently). 1 is a usable fireworks effect, the other one is a transmorpher beacon which allows you and others to glamour wherever you want. The only other major thing WoW offers are WoW Tokens, but arguably these are consumer friendly since they are bought and sold by the players themselves ingame for either subscription (saving irl money) or ingame gold (buying other people their subscription), thus the only direct way Blizzard profits from this is by reducing RMT. Other than that the net amount of subscriptions stays the same (players who buy tokens, basically pay for the subscription of other players). [edit2] Turns out the tokens cost 5$ more than sub, so Bliz does also directly profit from them.[/edit2]

    Now it's FFXIV's turn. Beside glamour FFXIV still has much more to offer in their Cash Shop which WoW doesn't even have categorized, namely: Seasonals, Housing, Dyes, Emotes, Chocobo Bardings and Orchestrion Rolls. These all amount to more than 240 items (many of which below 5$). Note that WoW also has seasonal items but they don't offer them in Cash Shop, instead let players enjoy the exclusivity.

    But wait, we may be ignoring the elephant in the room, which are ADDITIONAL RETAINERS which you can HIRE. These Retainers offer you more inventory space, ability to sell more items at once and additional means for acquiring gil (ventures).

    Then there are the additional services which both games offer (appearance change, level boost, ...) which don't provide more content ingame. The WoW ones are admittedly more expensive (sometimes double) than FFXIV.


    With this comparison, I believe I can safely claim that the FFXIV Cash Shop is indeed greedy and unnecessarily expansive.
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    Last edited by SamRF; 04-30-2020 at 01:38 AM. Reason: Wording, spelling, structure, anything between [edit]

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    Gamers rise up!!!

    Like a decade ago maybe
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    Not to nitpick but unless they removed it WoW does, in fact, have transmog items in their cash shop.

    Edit - huh. Don't see them anymore lmao. But yeah they had three transmog helmets added back in '13. Mostly ugly as sin but they were there :P

    Anyway the only thing I'd agree is a bit greedy is paid retainers. Esp when you could argue those actually DO give an advantage in game - more storage, selling space, and ventures per hour.
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    Last edited by Avidria; 04-29-2020 at 10:36 PM.

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    The only gripe I have is with the retainers. And dont get me started on the mobile app.

    Inventory space is the biggest issue. I dont care if they sell optional mounts and glamour on the mogstation, but I shouldnt have to pay for inventory space.
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    Zalera
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    Quote Originally Posted by Derio View Post
    The only gripe I have is with the retainers. And dont get me started on the mobile app.

    Inventory space is the biggest issue. I dont care if they sell optional mounts and glamour on the mogstation, but I shouldnt have to pay for inventory space.
    You don't have to pay for inventory space.

    How about you just throw some !@#$ away.
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    R'lileen Min'enoth
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    There are not that many things that bother me in the cash shop. My main grievances would be :

    Items should be account wide.
    Glamours should be dyable
    Seasonal items should be available each year (only during the event but every year)
    Housing items in the cash shop since :
    - items can be lost with the house
    - items can be stolen if placed in FC house

    This said, I consider the whole housing system as disappointing but it is another subject.
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    Last edited by Eldevern; 04-29-2020 at 10:46 PM.
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    La normalité n'est que la moyenne de nos folies individuelles.
    Normality is just an average. I'm the weird, you're the bizarre.

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    Elric Ashmore
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    ...because we needed another thread about this.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Macleod View Post
    ...because we needed another thread about this.
    My thinking exactly. This is a literal regurgitation of a thread from like 3 weeks ago too. I just find it funny that this and the other most recent mogstation whine thread are both right here next to each other. It's ridiculous.
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    Last edited by SturmChurro; 04-30-2020 at 10:55 AM.

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    Quote Originally Posted by SturmChurro View Post
    My thinking exactly. This is a literal regurgitation of a thread from like 3 weeks ago too. I just find it funny that this and the other most recent mogstation whine thread are both right here next to each other. It's ridiculous.
    Because ppl be lazy and my opinion on the topic is more important than that other thread so i must have my own thread.

    this is why nothing ever gets to devs because of too much topic fragmentation.

    as for the topic at hand. i've always been of the mindset that it's optional. OPTIONAL. no one is holding a gun to your head and saying BUY THIS OR ELSE. lol
    for those that complain that it should be made available for free in game. eh whatever.
    if there is an MMO out there that doesn't have a cash shop please tell me so everyone knows to go play that game instead and stop being so whiny haha.
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    Meanwhile in Black Desert Online... Cash shop prices and the variety of "For Convenience" sales are on the rise, they made over 1 billion dollars in profit back in 2019 xD.
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