So, Mog station here we are

[Avidria]

Double post that I apparently can't delete from mobile O.o

[rainichan]

If anything I think SE needs to stop siphoning money from ffxiv. We all know they are doing it, how else did they fund ff7r. More money needs to be put into the game and giving to the devs who work extremely hard

That's not how it works. SE isn't "siphonng" money from the XIV dev team. Every cent that SE makes from ANY IP THAT THEY SELL goes back to the company as a whole. And when I say "any IP they sell", I mean that proceeds from FF7R will go into FFXIV development, it goes into Nier Replicant ver 1.2~, it goes into Dragon Quest, FFXI, and so on and so forth; any money made from those ventures will fund everything else as well. It also goes into: paying their utility bills (lights/water/the insane internet they probably have), paying their employees, and new equipment just to name a few things. That money also goes into the Fanfest gatherings and the planning/acquisition of them and where they're held. They use the money for more as well, I'm sure, this is just a skim of what it's used for.

This is basic Econ101.

irt the rest of this thread: I see there's still salt over some fairy wings. If you're gonna complain about things being in MS and how they "should be in game", don't complain when they put stuff in game and then how they're "locked behind something so people will do the content" later. Because that will 100% show up later, just like in my original comment.

[yukiiyuki]

irt the rest of this thread: I see there's still salt over some fairy wings. If you're gonna complain about things being in MS and how they "should be in game", don't complain when they put stuff in game and then how they're "locked behind something so people will do the content" later. Because that will 100% show up later, just like in my original comment.

People complaining about something being locked behind grind or rating are real mystery for me, this is supposed to be an MMO, you can't get anything you want without doing something, people who spend more time and effort supposed to be better than you and have exclusive armor sets of mounts.

[Krotoan]

It is pretty petty... for a game that is already charging us money to add a new mount that they have already put into the shop twice and trying to charge another 17 € just because this time it's red coloured instead of cyan or yellow.

How so? People ASKED for that. Specifically. "where is the ruby version". You can probably search for that in this very forum. How is responding to DEMAND, petty? Or were you just looking for a way to try and flip the pointing finger over to someone else?

Yes, now that's the thing. Maybe I am old schooled or old fashioned or whatever about my video games, but I neither like to spend real money on virtual items for a game I already have bought AND paying a monthly fee for it, nor do I like to see items in a game that you can't get just by actually playing the game.

How is that even the same? Why are you mixing it up? In a video game you should be able to get the things you want by spending in-game money (or earning it otherwise) IN game. That's my point and in real life it's just the same: I don't mind if someone drives a car I can't affort irl and I don't mind if someone is riding a mount in game I can't affort because I don't have enough gil or because I'm not good enough at beating the content (yet). It's not jealousy. And, regarding the mount, it's not because I can't effort it myself either. I could, it wouldn't hurt me financially, it just doesn't feel right to me in regard to my point of view about video games. It would be different if FF14 was a F2P (=/= p2w) like Path of Exile, LoL, Fortnite etc. where they need to finance themself through cosmetics without subscriptions or selling base game and expensions. And maybe most people wouldn't even mind if it would be just one or two things a year or something like that. But we just had a new mount last month and there is still this peacock somewhere in the database ready to be release, so there is also the feeling that it's getting "too much".

Your problem lies in the perception of your resources. The root resource you have in all cases is time. Your time on this earth, your time awake, your time not spent on essential activities like eating or sleeping. How you choose to spend that time is up to you. You can spend it grinding 3000 A-rank kills, or you can spend it say... working one or two hours at a job or even doing a job for someone if you don't wish to commit to a whole full time deal. EITHER WAY you are spending time. It is entirely your choice. However telling people that you'd rather they NOT have the option to spend their time how they wish just because you don't wish to spend that time in a way you don't like, is pretty selfish.


The fact the models and textures are in the database is irrelevant. They said in the beginning that cash shop things are their own department and crew. Just because they're staggering the releases doesn't mean they're "withholding" things from the main game, it just means they have a schedule and they're ahead of it.

People will ALWAYS complain about cash shop things because they're stuck in this weird perception that somehow they're being cheated out of an opportunity to earn something when all that has happened is the method has changed. You can still earn it, you can still work towards it, the middling currency has just changed.

I do. I would say I'm working toward my own house. Or a new car. Or the next vacation trip (whenever that will be). But I would never say I work my actual job to earn the rl-money I need for an in-game item. Or are you are saying you prefere to "work toward" an item by working extra time irl in a rl-job to earn the rl-money to just buy the item instead of playing the same time in-game to get it there directly without any rl-money involved?

Every hour I spend "grinding" toward something in game is an hour I could have theoretically been making money. My time is worth something. It has a dollar value that I have agreed upon with my current employer as well as what I personally value it at. I don't personally see the difference between either form of trading my life for things, virtual or otherwise. If anything my major problem with this game is the time gates that FORCE me to spend excessive amounts of my time on certain activities because I should "earn" it. I have to play once a day to take advantage of resets. I have to do certain activities once a week instead of getting them all done in a day. Every time I HAVE to be at my computer a certain amount of times in a given period is a drain on the only real currency I have to spend.

You are spending your one true resource regardless of the interim forms it takes. I boggles my mind that you not only refuse to spend it in one particular way, but you wish that other people wouldn't even have the choice.

[Yoruichi4478]

Three things.1) SE is a business and needs to make money. 2) I highly doubt there’s a big enough demand for this glam to warrant the resources it would take to design a boss fight for it to drop. 3) I don’t think you have an understanding about what f2p Korean games offer for sale. They make their money offering stuff like characters, gear, and enhancements to grown the player’s roster. If SE ever tried to offer stuff like real gear with real stats that top what’s already available the community would be out with pitchforks

Just have it drop in pieces in Titania EX. The content already exists for it. No need to design a new fight.

[rainichan]

People complaining about something being locked behind grind or rating are real mystery for me, this is supposed to be an MMO, you can't get anything you want without doing something, people who spend more time and effort supposed to be better than you and have exclusive armor sets of mounts.

I don't get it either. The Eureka hairstyle was complained to heck and back over it being "locked" behind content and that it was "the only way SE would get people to play tye content" which was incredibly untrue. They want their cake and to be able to eat it too, because when something is just given, there's complaints that they want to work for it, and when there's work for it, complain that it's too much work for this thing.

Wish people would make up their minds in what the outrage actually is.

[Edax]

I don't get it either. The Eureka hairstyle was complained to heck and back over it being "locked" behind content and that it was "the only way SE would get people to play tye content" which was incredibly untrue. They want their cake and to be able to eat it too, because when something is just given, there's complaints that they want to work for it, and when there's work for it, complain that it's too much work for this thing.

Wish people would make up their minds in what the outrage actually is.

It's probably different people complaining about different issues because believe it or not, everyone has an opinion. The "people" will never be of one mind.

[Gemina]

I seem to remember one of the Fae folk in Il Mheg telling me they were going to make me a dress. Maybe this is it?

"Hey! Where's the dress you said you were going to make me?"

"I said I was going to make you a dress? Are you sure?

"Maybe I'll talk to the King."

"Ohhhhhh, I remember! Jeez! I just want to play. Please don't tell our king. It's right here!"

"Ummmm. That is not a dress. That is a gown. And are those pants? You don't wear pants with dresses.

"Yeah well, it's costs....."

"Cost!? I have to pay for it?"

"Silly wingless one. I said I would make it. I never said it was free."

[RareItems]

31 page thread for a Mogstation glamour item that doesn't even look good? o.o

[Sabrenn]

So a few pages back I expressed my worry that they are tuning down in game gear to push us to buy from the mogstation.

I've been reassured that no, it's just because the tome gear is crystarium themed. fair, fair.

Today I check my email and see this:



Really SE? You're going to full on call out your OWN designs in game mundane?

This is literally what I was talking about. They're not even hiding it.

edit for clarity: this is the definition of mundane: common; ordinary; banal; unimaginative.