So, Mog station here we are

[Sabrenn]

The dalmascan set is one of the best looking glamour sets they've added into the game....on females. It's pretty disingenuous to post the set on a male character when it's plain as day that a lot of glamours look atrocious on them, including that one. The top especially looks gorgeous and goes with a ton of great glamours. To each their own I guess.

I mean it's the best looking glamour if you want to walk around with a scarf barely covering your chest. I really don't think it's comparable to the detail of a long gown with gold embroidery etc etc.


Looks like with one wrong movement she'll be exposed to the world but you're right, to each their own. If anything I think the rebel coat is a lot more detailed and you were right on that one as a closer comparison on quality.

[Canada_bangs]

I think you need to work on your reading comprehension because I have, in fact, never said that. The players who "skipped tooltips, didn't know how to aoe, or hold hate, or heal, or dps" should be forced to suffer slow and painful low level dungeons and player feedback all the way until 70, so the change that they are bad at levels 70-80 is smaller. Bad players just exist or don't exist in your black and white thinking but I also care about the rate at which they exist, especially at higher levels.

The point went over your head it seems.. so I'll explain it slow. Jump potions most likely have very little to no effect on bad players. Since the issues people blame the pots for existed long before they were here. matter of fact someone replied to me earlier confirming just that. I think you and other people need to stop instantly throwing shade at things you don't like acting like it causes all these problems when these problems were here long before said item. Hell are you mad at exp boosts on servers and how fast routs gives you exp? Or deep dungeons? Cause they do the same thing as jump potions do. Yet your first offense was to throw shade at the pots? That's why I replied. If you're going to throw shade at the pots, throw it at the game too since the game doesn't do anything to teach you either. You can coast by and be just as stupid as a jumper. I'm willing to bet most people who jump aren't even new players but vets who have alts.

[Pepsi_Plunge]

That's.. pretty petty.

It is pretty petty... for a game that is already charging us money to add a new mount that they have already put into the shop twice and trying to charge another 17 € just because this time it's red coloured instead of cyan or yellow.

Wishing that people wouldn't even have it because you don't want to even see it if it costs money?

Yes, now that's the thing. Maybe I am old schooled or old fashioned or whatever about my video games, but I neither like to spend real money on virtual items for a game I already have bought AND paying a monthly fee for it, nor do I like to see items in a game that you can't get just by actually playing the game.

How many times do you wish that people in real life don't have things you want because you don't want to pay the cost to have them?

How is that even the same? Why are you mixing it up? In a video game you should be able to get the things you want by spending in-game money (or earning it otherwise) IN game. That's my point and in real life it's just the same: I don't mind if someone drives a car I can't affort irl and I don't mind if someone is riding a mount in game I can't affort because I don't have enough gil or because I'm not good enough at beating the content (yet). It's not jealousy. And, regarding the mount, it's not because I can't effort it myself either. I could, it wouldn't hurt me financially, it just doesn't feel right to me in regard to my point of view about video games. It would be different if FF14 was a F2P (=/= p2w) like Path of Exile, LoL, Fortnite etc. where they need to finance themself through cosmetics without subscriptions or selling base game and expensions. And maybe most people wouldn't even mind if it would be just one or two things a year or something like that. But we just had a new mount last month and there is still this peacock somewhere in the database ready to be release, so there is also the feeling that it's getting "too much".

You... realize you can "work toward" something that costs money right? This is how actual jobs work.

I do. I would say I'm working toward my own house. Or a new car. Or the next vacation trip (whenever that will be). But I would never say I work my actual job to earn the rl-money I need for an in-game item. Or are you are saying you prefere to "work toward" an item by working extra time irl in a rl-job to earn the rl-money to just buy the item instead of playing the same time in-game to get it there directly without any rl-money involved?

[Reinha]

If you're going to throw shade at the pots, throw it at the game too since the game doesn't do anything to teach you either.

I do. This thread is about the Mog Station.

Jump potions most likely have very little to no effect on bad players.

It has the effect that a bad player can more easily get into level 70+ content where they don't belong. Less options to bypass learning is better than more options.

[Bright-Flower]

The point went over your head it seems.. so I'll explain it slow. Jump potions most likely have very little to no effect on bad players. Since the issues people blame the pots for existed long before they were here. matter of fact someone replied to me earlier confirming just that. I think you and other people need to stop instantly throwing shade at things you don't like acting like it causes all these problems when these problems were here long before said item. Hell are you mad at exp boosts on servers and how fast routs gives you exp? Or deep dungeons? Cause they do the same thing as jump potions do. Yet your first offense was to throw shade at the pots? That's why I replied. If you're going to throw shade at the pots, throw it at the game too since the game doesn't do anything to teach you either. You can coast by and be just as stupid as a jumper. I'm willing to bet most people who jump aren't even new players but vets who have alts.

Agreed. There are really two types of players.

Players that will put an honest effort into learning their job and playing it competently.

And people that will be lazy about it and put in minimal effort.

The former use jump potions and take a few minutes to get a grasp of the new job on a training dummy and get their bars in order.

The latter will stay bad because leveling through the game from 1 doesn't actually require you to be good at the job you're leveling.

[Stepjam]

Honestly, I've felt mogstation has been pretty restrained generally. This easter event is the first time I've said "Well why isn't that just ingame?" with the easter mount

[Canada_bangs]

It is pretty petty... for a game that is already charging us money to add a new mount that they have already put into the game TWICE and trying to charge another 17 € just because this time it's red coloured instead of blue and yellow.



Yes, now that's the thing. Maybe I am old schooled or old fashioned or whatever about my video games, but I neither like to spend real money on virtual items for a game I already have bought AND paying a monthly fee for it, nor do I like to see items in a game that you can't get just by playing the game.



How is that even the same? Why are you mixing it up? In a video game you should be able to get the things you want by spending in-game money you earned IN game. That's my point and in real life it's just the same: I don't mind if someone drives a car I can't affort irl and I don't mind if someone is riding a mount in game I can't affort because I don't have enough gil or because I'm not good enough at beating the content (yet). It's not because I can't effort it myself. I could, it wouldn't hurt me financially, it just doesn't feel right to me in regard to my point of view about video games. It would be different if FF14 was a F2P (=/= p2w) like Path of Exile, LoL, Fortnite etc. where they need to finance themself through cosmetics, but we are talking about a p2p-game.



I do. I would say I'm working toward my own house. Or a new car. Or the next vacation trip (whenever that will be). But I would never say I work my actual job to earn the rl-money I need for an in-game item. Or are you are saying you prefere to "work toward" an item by working extra time irl in a rl-job to earn the rl-money to just buy the item instead of playing the same time in-game to get it there directly without any rl-money involved?

So going off your post, you only got ARR right? Since buying HW, SB and SB2 would be against your wishes correct? If you bought any of those then your point about the mogstation is moot.

[Skivvy]

So going off your post, you only got ARR right? Since buying HW, SB and SB2 would be against your wishes correct? If you bought any of those then your point about the mogstation is moot.

I've not been keeping up with the last several pages as this thread went weird, but, I think most people would agree that game expansions are vastly different that cash shop/microtransactions.

[Canada_bangs]

I do. This thread is about the Mog Station.



It has the effect that a bad player can more easily get into level 70+ content where they don't belong. Less options to bypass learning is better than more options.

Your point is a nonissue since that's been the case since HW at least. Point being you will never stop players from being bad. Because no matter what the issue is with that player being lazy. buying the pot isn't making them lazy, they were already lazy to begin with. And if the pot wasn't there we still have literally tons of things in the game to rush them to endgame without a clue. If you want to be mad at anyone be mad at your fellow gamers who just carry people in all of the leveling dungeons. The jump potions are like the least offensive thing ever. Mostly because you have to buy them. Deep dungeon, all the exp boost and whatnot are just flat out in the game.

I'm just going to say the Tales of the Dutyfinder thread proves my point. As the issues you're pinning on jump potions were issues players had in the game since the beginning, before jump potions, exp boost, deep dungeons and whatever. Your issue with those pots isn't a mogstation issue.. it's a people issue.

[DBriggs304]

Oh.... how did I miss the new carbuncle mount? Lol. And I though I was going to be able to survive this round of optional items