Next new job better be heals

[tinythinker]

There are some people throwing their votes in with Time Mage

Please just anything except Geomancer, we do not need a Geo healer. Save it for a different role.

Honestly, I've barely played other FF games but when I look up Geomancer it feels like WHM and AST had a baby, who had a baby with a BLM that grew up and joined choir. Devout? Even a wiki said it's a pumped up WHM. Time Mage also sounds a lot like AST (using gravity as a weapon, etc.). So, I wonder if players would welcome a truly new FFXIV original job or would rather have a highly reworked version of some past FF job that mostly just share the same name?

[VictorTheed]

I like the current WHM and Astro, WHM I like better in SHB cause I enjoy it's moveset more though Astro was better in SB, card effects doing more then damage buffs was helpful, especially that mp cat.

As far as new healers I'd like either a healer that heals through how much dps it does and it has a few strait up heal moves or give us a chemist healer.

[tinythinker]

I like the current WHM and Astro, WHM I like better in SHB cause I enjoy it's moveset more though Astro was better in SB, card effects doing more then damage buffs was helpful, especially that mp cat.

As far as new healers I'd like either a healer that heals through how much dps it does and it has a few strait up heal moves or give us a chemist healer.

Hmm, what about Mystic/Oracle? All jobs transposed into FFXIV are modified to fit its combat system so it could work as healer or dps. Mystic is about in buffs/debuffs (good support aspect) and draining enemies. That could still be a drain of MP (used of course to cast healing and dps spells) but could also/instead drain health from the enemy and apply it to allies. Or fill some spirit bar that is used for attacks/heals. Plus with the Taoist monk concept/aesthetic it could work for those wanting a healer that sometimes goes into melee range. Mayhap even leaving your body to move around in spirit-form then teleport back could be involved.

Some old somewhat related comments...

May 2019

Melee healers are definitely possible in the technical sense, and I made a brief outline when people were speculating DNC might be a healer as well as when some folks were calling for a darker, edgier healer. I recall seeing some other people lay out some frameworks or themes as well.

Personally, I think melee healers would be a good candidate for tying healing to damage in some way. Like a long-cool down that let you convert a portion of damage into healing or a buff to healing, perhaps draining the enemy targets in some way. The job would need to keep moving like a ninja, monk, dragoon, etc. which could involve a mini-game of when "cast while moving" vs. "stationary cast" options are available to make sure party member didn't die while their healer was dodging mechanics.

December 2018

How about you cast your oGCD heals (and buffs and debuffs and other utility) using your health bar, but leech health back to yourself from enemies with mana-based attacks? Minor to average GCD heals using mana would still be out there, but wouldn't be enough to get through tough fights. This is the bare bones of the concept -- it would have elaboration on the mini-game -- but basically a very high-stakes risk and reward affair. A kind of blood magic -- take a life to save a life.

To flesh it out a bit, imagine if Benediction, Tetragrammaton, Assize, Asylum, Presence of Mind, Thin Air, and Divine Benison were fouling chunks of your health bar each time they were used, and that as long as you remained in combat the specific amount of health they cost you needed to be renewed/purified by Stone, Aero, and Holy. You would need to manage the situation to keep things from getting out of hand but would be able to really push the limits of your healing to whatever you feel comfortable with. (Maybe being able to at times even getting an extra instant cast opportunity for the oGCDs that if taken push you further into danger.)

Kind of like how in the Fallout games some of your health bar gets taken over by radiation and regular healing items can't do anything about that part of the bar -- you have to use RadAway to free up or renew that portion of the health bar. If 50% of your health bar is polluted/weakened/on-borrowed-time, you are effectively operating only at 50% of your regular max health. Normally you have 15,000 health, but you've spent 5,000 on your blood magic. It's the same as only having 10,000 health until you pay it back to yourself damaging foes.

Obviously "blood magic" would have to be changed in the second one for Oracle, and I like the first old comment better. There was another related comment but after 20 minutes I can't find it so meh.

[Tulzscha]

Is there anyone expecting/wanting something other than Geomancer, Chemist, or Necromancer for the next healer job?

Anyone?

Green Mage could be cool.

[tinythinker]

Green Mage could be cool.

Wow, how many colors does FF have for mages?

Will have to look that one up

[BasicBlake]

Honestly, I've barely played other FF games but when I look up Geomancer it feels like WHM and AST had a baby, who had a baby with a BLM that grew up and joined choir. Devout? Even a wiki said it's a pumped up WHM. Time Mage also sounds a lot like AST (using gravity as a weapon, etc.). So, I wonder if players would welcome a truly new FFXIV original job or would rather have a highly reworked version of some past FF job that mostly just share the same name?

I would love an FFXIV original healer! But there is way too much in game lore for Geo to come in without being a caster, unless toes were stepped on.

[Morningstar1337]

I would love an FFXIV original healer! But there is way too much in game lore for Geo to come in without being a caster, unless toes were stepped on.

Isn't AST an XIV original healer?

[Billythepancake]

Isn't AST an XIV original healer?

It was in FF tactics as well. At least according to a quick google search. Haven't played any other FF besides this though

[BasicBlake]

It was in FF tactics as well. At least according to a quick google search. Haven't played any other FF besides this though

Yeah this is it, loosely based off a FFT class. Or expanded upon I should say.

But my money is on us finally getting to radz at han for chemist. There is a private alchemist only island south of it that I think it will originate from.

[Jade3173]

Wow, how many colors does FF have for mages?

Will have to look that one up

They have a few colors, White, Black, Red, Blue, and Green. Green is much less know since it only exists in Tactics A2 and Tactics S, with S being a Japanese phone game. They are the Buff & Debuffer Mage with some strong whacking ability. So think spells like Protect, Shell, Sleep, Blind and you got the gist of Green's spell list. Personally I love the class and do think it'd make a nice healer with some healing spells added to its normal list, could also make a good tank if you slap it in some armor instead. Pretty sure FFXII has a larger list of Green Magicks but it doesn't have a dedicated Green (Battle)Mage class like the others do in Zodiac Age

I agree with it being a great healer and if they could do it in a good way would love to see it. However, it would easily make a tank. They use hammers so give them a 1-2-3 combo to spam and then easily slap on "spells" (read: Abilities) like Protect for tank CDs with Bubble or something for the big CD