So, Mog station here we are

[ForteNightshade]

Maybe. But still, sometimes it's better that something doesn't exist. After I started the game I saw someone riding a Carbuncle. I was playing Summoner as my main job back in the day, so I thought "Hey, that would be a great mount for me" and I asked them were I can get it. And then they told me. After I bought the game with the expension and was already paying my sub, hearing that I can't even get this mount - no matter how much I play or how good I get at it - until I pay another ~17 € for it was a massive bummer. A wasn't expecting that from a Non-F2P game, not after I already had paid like over 50 € for it.

And now imagine taking it to the extreme, standing in a place where all this people gather with their glamour and their mounts. You are new and you are talking to them "Hey, I like your outfit" "Thanks, you can buy it at the mog station"; "Hey, I haven't seen this hairstyle on character creation" "Well, you can buy it at the mog station." "What about.." "MOG STATION!".

Now would you keep playing this p2p-game after it just turned into an advertising plattform for the in-game-item-shop, right after you bought it and paid your sub? I'm not sure I would.

This argument would hold up better if FFXIV had an overabundance of glamour always thrown onto the Mogstation. But it doesn't. In fact, many of the most popular glamour outfits, mounts and minions can all be earned in-game without spending a dime extra. Look no further than the Rebel Coat, Dalmascan top or the Ao Dai. People wore those (and still do) more than a good chunk of the cash shop dresses.

People keep bringing up this extreme scenario, insisting that if we wait long enough, SE will inevitably put everything good on the Mogstation. Six years and counting, they still haven't yet. So either they're extraordinarily patient or they've found a compromise that seemingly works for most players.

Now I get being disappointed you found something you would have preferred earning in-game. But saying it shouldn't exist at all comes across selfish. To spare your own disappointment, you're essentially saying "If I can't get it in-game, then no one should have it at all." I bought that Carbuncle mount the day it came out; two actually since my BFF adored them. So I bought her one as an early Christmas gift. We both got plenty of use out of them, and I don't regret my purchase. Was it overpriced? You could argue that. So is going out to restaurants, ordering take out or having a commission done of your character.

Some people are content spending extra money on luxury things simply because they can. There isn't anything wrong with it.

Bringing that back to video games. Like said, the cost of development has skyrocketed over the years. If micro-transactions didn't exist. We'd be paying a lot more to play those games. I dunno about you but I prefer the option of buying novelty cosmetics once in and while or the sub fee being $25.

[JamieRose]

Aaand a defense for jump potions arrives like clockwork.

Cosmetic items make less of a difference so why are there 20 pages of whining about those and not the services which actually have an impact on the buyer's gameplay?

Paying to skip content is an idea so mindbogglingly stupid that I didn't think anyone would actually cough up money for that.

This argument would hold up better if FFXIV had an overabundance of glamour always thrown onto the Mogstation. But it doesn't. In fact, many of the most popular glamour outfits, mounts and minions can all be earned in-game without spending a dime extra. Look no further than the Rebel Coat, Dalmascan top or the Ao Dai. People wore those (and still do) more than a good chunk of the cash shop dresses.

People keep bringing up this extreme scenario, insisting that if we wait long enough, SE will inevitably put everything good on the Mogstation. Six years and counting, they still haven't yet. So either they're extraordinarily patient or they've found a compromise that seemingly works for most players.

Now I get being disappointed you found something you would have preferred earning in-game. But saying it shouldn't exist at all comes across selfish. To spare your own disappointment, you're essentially saying "If I can't get it in-game, then no one should have it at all." I bought that Carbuncle mount the day it came out; two actually since my BFF adored them. So I bought her one as an early Christmas gift. We both got plenty of use out of them, and I don't regret my purchase. Was it overpriced? You could argue that. So is going out to restaurants, ordering take out or having a commission done of your character.

Some people are content spending extra money on luxury things simply because they can. There isn't anything wrong with it.

Bringing that back to video games. Like said, the cost of development has skyrocketed over the years. If micro-transactions didn't exist. We'd be paying a lot more to play those games. I dunno about you but I prefer the option of buying novelty cosmetics once in and while or the sub fee being $25.

This strikes me as the kind of thing someone would say after paying $19 for avocado toast.

[Iscah]

Paying to skip content is an idea so mindbogglingly stupid that I didn't think anyone would actually cough up money for that.

Depends if it gets you where you want to be, I guess? Especially in a subscription game where you have to pay for your gameplay time, too.

You could argue that spending the equivalent on a month's subscription fee on a story skip would instantly get you to a point that would require a month of gameplay to reach. In which case you end up at the same point at the same price if you don't care about the experience you're missing out on along the way.

Personally I jumped my fourth character through ARR because I didn't want to go through those particular hoops again, and also specifically wanted to replay the Crystal Tower storyline in the lead-up to Shadowbringers, but didn't have the time to work through all of ARR first. So I paid for it.

I wouldn't recommend anyone to pay for a skip on their first time through, but it's more understandable for alts.

[MistyMew]

Back then when the Mog Station arrived some of us were already forseeing what was going to come.
We were insulted back then, literally but here we are my friends !



Is it a China exclusive ? Nop
Is it past event reward ? Nop
Is it SE, a small indie company, trying to milk us a little more like a korean F2P ? Yep

You don't want it, you don't buy it" too bad we don't have a fairy primal who could drop it as a costume like they did with 2B in the Factory...

SE is NOTHING like Korean ftp because this outfit is repulsive and as nerdy as a nun!!

Now if it was stunning and sexy , then ...I would buy it!
But its as frumpy as a grandma, stiff as a board and everything will clip.

Robe, frumpy as h**, wings not thin, translucent or delicate..and I guarantee you they will be rock hard not flowing as they should be. The boots are flat and boring like 99% in game, circlet - nothing special, pants...so incredibly basic.

No probs with mog station, at all tbh!
An in game drop is always a great choice too, I agree, but in this case noooo loss /puke.

Wish they would get a new gear designer for some sexy,and stunning glamour (not for all, just some!)...hire from TERA <----a not so subtle HINT HINT

[Eldevern]

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You know, you can see this extra-inventory space the opposite way : it leads to store rather than to sell them or use them for crafts XD
Aka "I will craft this or this later". Two or three years after, you still have them thought they are pretty cheaper to buy now XD

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As I said, that's not a big deal... To be fair, will all the clipping problems the clothes have, I don't really mind. It's just... the game don't have much dress based on Oschon's Mail of Aiming model. And fairies could have been a good way to introduce a new one.

[Halivel]

Paying to skip content is an idea so mindbogglingly stupid that I didn't think anyone would actually cough up money for that.

It depends, there's a variety of reasons to do so. Every time new players ask me, I always advice not to buy one as it doesn't really give anything, but there are 2 scenarios that can somewhat justify the skip book purchase (in my eyes, anyway):

1. Fast leveling an alt (either for RP reasons or for something else). The player in this case already knows the game, and only cuts the time spent on leveling new character (maybe also saving money they they would spend on sub otherwise)
2. Somebody who came to play with a party of friends and this party awaits them in HE content asap. While I personally wouldn't want to have friends who rushes me on my way, it's still something you can consider as a good reason to take a shorter way.

Wish they would get a new gear designer for some sexy,and stunning glamour (not for all, just some!)...hire from TERA <----a not so subtle HINT HINT

Leave TERA in TERA please, thanks.

[YatoShishi]

every time when smth will show up on the mog station we get a forum post about this. i know it sux for some people but they obv. make money out of it so they wont change it. lots of games (even offline games) sell cosmetics now, it is what it is. i personally have no issue with the mog station, if i want it i either buy it or i dont. no offence but we dont need a new forum thread about it every. single. time. (i know this will trigger some but, bloop)

[Reinha]

Paying to skip content is an idea so mindbogglingly stupid that I didn't think anyone would actually cough up money for that.

So selling useless things to idiots is harmless, I can agree with that. That still makes me to question why there is a 20 page complaint about cosmetics and not paid retainers, which are not useless. They offer inventory space, market space and ventures which all have an impact on game play, unlike cosmetics. Why is the player base not appalled that basic game features are severely limited without paying more for it but gets mad about paid outfits (which fit the "selling useless things to idiots" description as well)?

[LaylaTsarra]

I personally wish they sold separates I don't care for most of the items but some skirts and shoes yeah I'd like them. This outfit does nothing for me personally but more power to those who enjoy it. I would have preferred just the wings... put them in a ring or bracelet slot.

And relative to skips I use them a lot for many of my alts. I'm not slogging through msq again although it might be tempting to see how they changed it but I suspect new game plus will enable that.

[ErryK]

This discussion is so mindless.

Either buy it or don't.