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    Lhei Amariyo
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    Quote Originally Posted by Iscah View Post
    But still - I don't understand where the appeal is in being made to do something you wouldn't want to do otherwise.

    Why is grinding 100 FATEs for your own amusement unbearable, but grinding 100 FATEs to earn your weapon considered an accomplishment?

    What makes people say they want to be forced to do something they will not find fun and would rather not do, just to fill in their time?

    Please explain because I cannot comprehend it.

    There are things in life you do have to work for, because that's the way the real physical world works. But being made to do something repeatedly in a videogame once or ten times or a thousand times is entirely arbitrary.
    You basically answered your question. Its a type of work. One you choose to do, because in the end it will pay off. It's a cost-benefit analysis between time invested, enjoyment during that time, and end reward. If there is no (proper) reward, and the content isn't enjoyable, its a chore. If the reward is necessary, but the enjoyment low, its a job. If the time investment is low, then the reward loses much of its perceived value. If the (subjective) balance between the three factors is a positive, you basically have a hobby.

    Good grinds are usually balanced in a way where rewards are great, enjoyment of the process is somewhere in the positive side (usually just barely), and the time investment is high.

    Its much like how people don't like easy raids. There is no sense of achievement, just free rewards. Its just taxing in a different way.

    For an MMO its kind of important to insert time fillers like this, as they cannot provide enough content to maintain a stable subscriber population in the long term otherwise.

    Example: I paint Warhammer 40K figures. I hate painting. I'm not doing it for the fun of the process, but the extreme satisfaction when I finish, and they turn out great.
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    Last edited by Lersayil; 04-27-2020 at 04:57 PM.

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