Male Viera as a playable character! show your support

[dezzmont]

I don't think it has to be anything to grand or special to validate Male Viera. I would, personally, think that their situation requires at least a basic explanation. They're the unseen protectors of their lands that live an isolationist survival lifestyle and I feel like they'd be the last to break the Green Word. But I don't think it requires some grand tale of their struggles. Just a little something specific to Male Viera. As to your bit about Miqo'te I'll be honest and admit I didn't know that Miqo'te in general are supposed to be rare. But I've never let the choices of the community affect how I perceive or enjoy the lore of the game I'm immersing myself in.

I essentially agree, I am just emphaizing how utterly small it should be. It would actively be weird if the recognition was anything more intense than 'Much like the female tribes we too were sometimes compelled to leave.' Especially because any 'new' reason would need to work with Male Viera made in the future for people who played through the entire game as one.

Like I seriously don't understand the lore based objections to male Viera, it basically plays out like this:

"Female Viera are a very rare group, and almost exclusively live lives in the woods they never leave, but some due to curiosity or due to pressure from Garlemald, despite the fact this violates the green word, a strict social order that virtually all Viera live under, and which means they can never return home."

"Tracks to me."

"Also sometimes the guys do this too for identical reasons, except the social order they are part of is even more oppressive."

"UNBELIEVABLE."

Like maybe there is something I am missing (I DO understand the logic that Viera are a pre-existing race and there is a desire to respect old canon despite this being a new world with new lore) but it is... pretty darn clear the lore was NEVER intended to stop the male Viera they made concept art for and were clearly actively planning to make what with the datafiles in the game leaving a spot for them.

[BunnyBois]

ally plays out like this:

"Female Viera are a very rare group, and almost exclusively live lives in the woods they never leave, but some due to curiosity or due to pressure from Garlemald, despite the fact this violates the green word, a strict social order that virtually all Viera live under, and which means they can never return home."

"Tracks to me."

"Also sometimes the guys do this too for identical reasons, except the social order they are part of is even more oppressive."

Maybe I was presenting my stance poorly but this would literally be enough for me personally. Just a little extra spice since they're coming in later. "It took longer for males to follow suit due a greater magnitude of responsibility and pressure on their shoulders."

[Zanarkand-Ronso]

I essentially agree, I am just emphaizing how utterly small it should be. It would actively be weird if the recognition was anything more intense than 'Much like the female tribes we too were sometimes compelled to leave.' Especially because any 'new' reason would need to work with Male Viera made in the future for people who played through the entire game as one.

Like I seriously don't understand the lore based objections to male Viera, it basically plays out like this:

"Female Viera are a very rare group, and almost exclusively live lives in the woods they never leave, but some due to curiosity or due to pressure from Garlemald, despite the fact this violates the green word, a strict social order that virtually all Viera live under, and which means they can never return home."

"Tracks to me."

"Also sometimes the guys do this too for identical reasons, except the social order they are part of is even more oppressive."

"UNBELIEVABLE."

Like maybe there is something I am missing (I DO understand the logic that Viera are a pre-existing race and there is a desire to respect old canon despite this being a new world with new lore) but it is... pretty darn clear the lore was NEVER intended to stop the male Viera they made concept art for and were clearly actively planning to make what with the datafiles in the game leaving a spot for them.

I don't know where the idea that the males are under a more "Oppressive" law or whatever comes from. The males just simply haven't left the forest unlike their Sisters who have decided that occasionally they leave the woods. It just hasn't happened yet, that or they do it in so fewer numbers then the females that it goes unnoticed. Nothing is stopping the Males from leaving, but the lore just dictates that they probly never have.
Concept art as Ive mentioned earlier doesnt exactly mean it was gonna happen. Like the Aur-Ra were probly gonna legit be a Dragon Beast race according to old concept art, and now look at them, they are another humanoid race. Or it looked like the Lupin were gonna come in as either another beast race tribe or possibly playable...nope they never happened until Stormblood where they were just NPCs and a few Enemy type characters.

The simple fact is, its just never been written or shown that the males have Forsaken the Will of the Woods.
Nothing says they can't, or never will, but since it hasn't happened yet, just a simple lore tidbit explaining they decided to finally leave the Woods will update and expand the lore to show that they finally have. So we now have a few Viera Male NPCs, and when we do see other Male Viera Running around, nobody can be all "this doesn't make sense/is inconsistent with the lore" because the lore has been updated.

Im puzzled why there is so much Resistance to this idea.

[VirusOnline]

Im puzzled why there is so much Resistance to this idea.

Because your argument in itself is so circular my entire screen could loop itself into space and time. As we've seen in the last 20 or so pages.

But we are all entitled to our opinions and arguments.

[Zanarkand-Ronso]

Because your argument in itself is so circular my entire screen could loop itself into space and time. As we've seen in the last 20 or so pages.

So....its consistent and Constant?

But we are all entitled to our opinions and arguments.

Ill concur to this statement.