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  1. #11561
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    Quote Originally Posted by Zanarkand-Ronso View Post
    Miqote, Roegadyn & Highlander are not Viera. They are races in XIV. Not a race from Tactics and XII with already built lore.
    yet FF14 viera are not the same as FF12/tactic viera
    just like Miqote and mithra
    Similar but not the same in the long run,what 14 does doesn't mess with whats already there

    also female only playable wise not actually even in FF12 universe they are not female only
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    Quote Originally Posted by Schwarzwind View Post
    Since we see more female Viera outside their forests during quests (the one in the relic questline comes to mind) I certainly am positive that the writers might be able to come up with a logical reason for male Viera leaving their homeland easily. Even if we see just a few of them, just like with male Miqo'te who are pictured pretty rare compared to female Miqo'te. Let's hope we get some information about the missing genders by the end of the year.
    I actually think they have already laid some of the groundwork for this. At the end of the Ivalician Raids, there was a line of dialogue about Garlemald "rounding up the hares" I think this could be taken as rounding up either Viera or male Viera. The question is why would they? Since then we have seen the amount of biological experimentation they are doing. So I wouldn't be surprised if they are rounding up Viera for this purpose. Incidentally, it is also something that could force the Viera to leave the forests, to A - search for those that have been taken, and B find help to stop the rest from being taken.

    In any case, I think any reason would be along these lines or some direct threat to the forest. I am more inclined to think this plausible given the events of the resistance weapons the story which I think will factor heavily into 6.0.
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  3. #11563
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    Quote Originally Posted by Zanarkand-Ronso View Post
    You do realize that lore is important to more people then me right?
    Surely. Female viera lack claw-like hands and digitigrade feet. I expected viera lore anatomy, not a maybelline commercial.
    But this was meant to be rhetorical. The point of this sentence is that respecting lore is not the primary goal for SE, despite those who need lore to explain everything.

    And again, the reason I even bring such attention to the Viera, is because they existed outside of this game; before it in fact. And them being added to XIV is cool and neat, but I still think their lore should be respected enough, that if adapted to an MMO, should at least be expanded on while respecting at least some of the original lore.

    Its not creating a restriction to write in a reason for the Viera Males to leave the Forest and go against their laws to join the fight and go adventuring. If anything, it makes them more interesting, because after so long being hidden from most of the world, they finally come out. Thats as big a deal as people advocating so strongly for Male Viera
    Again, sure. Respect the lore.
    Both viera clans already have succinct, single sentence lore explanations which doesn't explicitly state is unique to females.

    Rava:
    Though most adhere to the traditions of the wood, some few have chosen to venture out into the world.
    Veena:
    As the winds of war swept up a number of those who left their mountain homes, many such hardened hunters chose to set out for the shores of Eorzea.
    I'm sure the same respectable lore you get will be one of the above from the rare, ferocious viera.

    Enter then, the Wandering Damaturge who says:
    Until recently-perhaps the past several generations-a Viera living outside her homeland was unheard of, and those who abandoned their tribes were branded outcasts. You see, the Viera follow a strict code called the "Green Word" that binds them to their lands and prohibits all contact with the outside world unless absolutely necessary.
    Again, more lore that uniquely identifies female viera. But the final sentence does not state a unique identifier to female viera only. This sentence can explain the general lore you're looking for.
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    Last edited by VirusOnline; 04-23-2020 at 07:41 PM.

  4. #11564
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    Quote Originally Posted by MelodyCrystel View Post
    @Zanarkand-Ronso If I was salty, you'd had gotten much uglier sentences from me. But probably I should be more on point with my choice of words towards you, as you seemingly tend to not see details.

    You don't support? You actually don't need to be here.
    You urgently want to discuss? Create a thread matching that intention.
    You insist on good lore? Don't bite people who would be fine without a lore-excuse.
    I dont need your Permission to be here, or to have a conversation with others.
    And dont act like Im sitting here attacking people, when Ive done nothing but have a conversation about my own personal views while listening and responding to other peoples opinions on the matter. If YOU have a personal problem with that, you dont need to read my posts.

    Quote Originally Posted by Duskane View Post
    also female only playable wise not actually even in FF12 universe they are not female only
    I dont recall a single visible Male Viera in XII, much less one that was playable.
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  5. #11565
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    Quote Originally Posted by VirusOnline View Post
    Again, more lore that uniquely identifies female viera. But the final sentence does not state a unique identifier to female viera only. This sentence can explain the general lore you're looking for.
    That last line is kinda already covered. The Males do trades and stuff when necessary.
    What isn't covered or happened yet, is the Males Leaving to become adventurers, or to join the fight against the Empire.
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  6. #11566
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    Quote Originally Posted by Zanarkand-Ronso View Post
    I dont recall a single visible Male Viera in XII, much less one that was playable.
    it mention them in the FF12 scenario ultimania
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    Quote Originally Posted by Duskane View Post
    it mention them in the FF12 scenario ultimania
    Mention isn't the same as visible or playable.
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  8. #11568
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    Quote Originally Posted by Arngrim_Greyashe View Post
    Mention isn't the same as visible or playable.
    They've still been something fans of the Ivalice setting have been speculating about and hoping to see for quite some time. Furthermore, they also play a part as to why the push for viera to be added to the game was so large in the first place.
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  9. #11569
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    Quote Originally Posted by Zanarkand-Ronso View Post
    This isn't official art. This is Fanart. Thats suppose to be Kimahri Genderbent.
    And, as good as it looks, I hope thats not the face we get. I hope we get a Full-blown Feline Muzzle. And Im pulling for the FemRoe BodyType since we got the Male Roe Bodytype for the males.
    Fair, though even if I grabbed a wrong photo, my point stands that we know what female ronso look like. They're all over Spira. And they're not far off from the fan image.

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  10. #11570
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    Quote Originally Posted by Theodric View Post
    They've still been something fans of the Ivalice setting have been speculating about and hoping to see for quite some time.
    Right, and I personally think it would make more sense for their 1st reveal to be in a Mainline Final Fantasy Game taking place in Ivalice.
    Not saying they cant be in XIV, bit it just feels weird to potentially make their debut i an MMO 1st
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