Theory on Zodairk and Hydylian

[Savagelf]

I think you prespect if wrong Melichoir you assumed you being manluptived by hydaelyn and that everything ascian told you was correct. see what they told you must take with gain of a lot salts because they lost second they desire are destructions. Hydailyn. third the concept of Amorotians isn't to be found anywere except by your post mean you made it up. Hydaelyn gave us the echo not Amorotians stop tried make stuff up. Hydaelyn isn't a threat the ascian and Zodairk are where in lore does Amorotians come or are you make that up too. third it was ascian who force some to gain echo not Hydaelyn seem to me Melichoir everything your say sound more like some regressive ideal to ffxiv and not concept the devs hold when we have discuss on lore of ffxiv I except people point out lore not use ideal they come up or ideal procept they themselves put in they head because they want it to work for they views. point when one is discuss lore you must base on lore of ffxiv not one own desire view and ideal that one come up with

my theory isn't base on my ideal but base what mainline quest is point to and what all the mainline quest are point to not what someone made up or someone want think will happen.

the ideal of Hydialyn be evil has been base on one ascian tried twist the truth, second ffxiv story telling is base on all ffxiv mainline quests not shadowbringer alone. or stormbringer alone I find stupid people want create this ideal base on they own views

make Hydialyn good would be a first a good thing and second a new way for ff series to go about story telling and something I hope they doing. in my play ff game away SE has made god like being evil they have never broke that pattern if they can break in ffxiv then it show SE can doing new thing and tried new and expand they story telling compase

the whole evil god thing is get a bit old too SE

[Melichoir]

I think you prespect if wrong Melichoir you assumed you being manluptived by hydaelyn and that everything ascian told you was correct. see what they told you must take with gain of a lot salts because they lost second they desire are destructions.

Not everything the Ascians have told us is a lie, and why should they always resort to lies. Sometimes the best way to manipulate an enemy is to tell them the truth of things. Furthermore, they dont 'desire destruction'. Thats not their end goal. Their end goal is to 'resurrect' Zodiark so they can get their homeland and people back. Theyre not sitting there thinking "Gee, lets destroy stuff cause its fun." The 3 main ones (Lahabrea, Elidibus, and Emet) all have different attitudes and may go about it differently but their end goal is the restoration of their people.

Hydailyn. third the concept of Amorotians isn't to be found anywere except by your post mean you made it up. Hydaelyn gave us the echo not Amorotians stop tried make stuff up.

Um have you not been reading the MSQ?

Were all 'sundered' versions of original amorotians. The echo is implied to be a fragment of the power amarotians had, and is not gifted by Hydaelin but inherent to all of us because of us being sundered versions of those amarotians. The star shower or events that mimic it awaken that power. IIRC Elidibus does explain that you cant hear haidelyin without the echo, contrary to the original belief you hear Hydaelin and then she gives you the echo. You dont believe me, fine, Ill quote the wiki:

...Elidibus later makes his presence known at the Crystarium, casting an illusion of a starshower to awaken the Echo within those present

This was revealed in the most recent MSQ. How can hydaelin be gifting us with the echo if it requires an external event to awaken that power? In this case, Elidibus awakens the echo in the crowd by casting an illusion. Wouldnt it be counter productive to Elidibus to even create more WoLs with the power bestowed by Hydaelin if thats where it came from? All these people would be potential threats to him. Yet hes trying to make more people with the Echo.

If I had to take a guess, he wants them to all go out in the world, do what the WoD did inadvertently 100 years prior, and jump start the flood again.

Hydaelyn isn't a threat the ascian and Zodairk are where in lore does Amorotians come or are you make that up too. third it was ascian who force some to gain echo not Hydaelyn seem to me Melichoir everything your say sound more like some regressive ideal to ffxiv and not concept the devs hold when we have discuss on lore of ffxiv I except people point out lore not use ideal they come up or ideal procept they themselves put in they head because they want it to work for they views. point when one is discuss lore you must base on lore of ffxiv not one own desire view and ideal that one come up with

my theory isn't base on my ideal but base what mainline quest is point to and what all the mainline quest are point to not what someone made up or someone want think will happen.

Im not sure if she is,

but given that she is not only a primal like zodiark, but her actions destroyed an entire world, and some of the stuff shes been up to doesnt quite add up. Not to mention her core is made up of another amarotian who, ironically, thought the solution to their problems was to summon MORE primals means that there is possibility that Hydaelin isnt perfectly good, and that Zodiark may not be completely evil. A theme that was presented was that light and darkness dont mean good/evil respectively, but are just different aspects. The first was a world almost obliterated by light. Doesnt sound like a 'good' thing to me.

Beyond that, gonna just ignore the rest. Not sure why youre going after me on a personal level. It's not relevant to anything Im saying. If Im wrong about some aspect of the lore, tell me the lore that counters my point and where its at so I can read up on it. Im not an expert on the lore, just passing my thoughts on based on what Ive understood.