Male Viera as a playable character! show your support

[Zanarkand-Ronso]

So, its pretty interesting how there is such an outcry and demand for Viera Males to be in the game, but then people shoot down the idea of SE/Yoshi and team putting any effort into their lore, since this "Could" potentially be their first Canon Reveal because they have never canonically been seen by the Player or most of the world. I just find it weird how badly people want them in game, but don't actually care the Race.
So why the demand if you dont actually care about them? Whats so valuable about their existence? lol

[Halivel]

So, its pretty interesting how there is such an outcry and demand for Viera Males to be in the game, but then people shoot down the idea of SE/Yoshi and team putting any effort into their lore, since this "Could" potentially be their first Canon Reveal because they have never canonically been seen by the Player or most of the world. I just find it weird how badly people want them in game, but don't actually care the Race.
So why the demand if you dont actually care about them? Whats so valuable about their existence? lol

/sigh
Once more, there can be, and most likely would be a lore for them. If there will be any as NPC, there's a very high chance there will be a reason for this - there always was one with rare species until now, and there is no reason why they would suddenly place NPC just for the sake of placing it. But it doesn't mean they need to explain why exactly they are playable. Player's character background is something what is determined by player, not devteam.

[Halivel]

/sigh
Once more, there can be, and most likely would be a lore for them. If there will be any as NPC, there's a very high chance there will be a reason for this - there always was one with rare species until now, and there is no reason why they would suddenly place NPC just for the sake of placing it. But it doesn't mean they need to explain why exactly they are playable. Player's character background is something what is determined by player, not devteam.

I guess I need to clarify my points a bit further, in case if somebody suddenly decides I don't care about lore, because that's not it. I do care about lore, do roleplaying, and try to avoid oddities in my character's story as much as it's possible. What we need to undesrtand is that there is a line between world building and forced backstory (which we didn't have up to now and, imo, shouldn't to).

1. Our WoL, by default, doesn't have the past. That's something what should be determined by player. That's how this game was built, and there's 0 reason why we suddenly should have a prescribed past for only one option out of all of them.
2. There is the world we are playing in. It has lore that explains why something does or does not happen in it. In case with m!Viera there are two most obvious scenarios (right now, at least):

   • Lore writers decide that they want m!Viera wandering around the world in a handful amount and write their lore accordinly to explain, why a lot of them suddenly left their Forest.
   • Lore writers decide that they don't want m!Viera wandering around the world, write their lore accordingly, and as result we either don't see them among NPC at all, or see them couple of times, with some explanation as to why these 2 folks left their home.

3. With point 1 and 2 being combined, we have a character without the past and info about the world that was written by developer. Based on that, the player builds their character. The reason why a certain playable character decided to become adventurer and the actual past of this character is something what is decided by its owner, not by SE.

To summarise: SE gives lore about the world. Players use this lore to build their characters' past in the way they personally want it. If they want to say that their characters actually aren't from Eorzea and came from another continent where things works a bit differently - so be it. The world builded by SE is still there and its lore is telling us why we do or don't witness some species and why something happens and something doesn't.

I hope now it's clear what I mean.

[reivaxe]

So, its pretty interesting how there is such an outcry and demand for Viera Males to be in the game, but then people shoot down the idea of SE/Yoshi and team putting any effort into their lore, since this "Could" potentially be their first Canon Reveal because they have never canonically been seen by the Player or most of the world. I just find it weird how badly people want them in game, but don't actually care the Race.
So why the demand if you dont actually care about them? Whats so valuable about their existence? lol

Cause people just want a dress up doll or their assumed eye-candy.

Tis why when Viera came out I remember seeing so many people whine, going "why are they sooo tall?/ they shoulda made the white ones shorter!/ Where's the bunny tail?" (Hell, I think I've only seen 1 person whine about Viera not having looong skinny claw hands ... cause it's not a pretty feature) cause at the end of the day lots of people like the idea they have in their head more than they care about a fictional race.
I'm 100% sure the devs coulda just made a race of "slightly taller nekos with up-scaled ears, bunny tails and HQ faces+hairs" and most of the player base would be beyond pleased as being an off shoot of nekos would mean hair and hats and more options for neko lovers.

Not to say there's anything wrong with that, people have every right to like and care for the idea or concept of something more than lore or story telling. Like I've said, Races are the most expensive cosmetic option the devs can add to the game ... at the end of the day it's a cosmetic option, players don't have to care about the lore to want "Sexy, stiff elezen dude with bunny ears".

[SturmChurro]

(Hell, I think I've only seen 1 person whine about Viera not having looong skinny claw hands ... cause it's not a pretty feature

Claw hands? So limited hand items, and animation issues? Please nobody bring up the sweet potato feet either - that would be limited foot gear too. So no headgear, handgear, or footwear.

[reivaxe]

Claw hands? So limited hand items, and animation issues? Please nobody bring up the sweet potato feet either - that would be limited foot gear too. So no headgear, handgear, or footwear.

Wut are you talking about?

Viera signature feet are a racial gear, Hrothgar Claws are a racial gear ... when not using race gear they both have normal feet and hands. If FF14 Viera were 100% accurate to the race they would have proportionately larger hands (and that alone wouldn't limit hand gear lol ). That isn't exactly a pretty feature which was my point, people by large don't care about getting a 100% lore accurate Viera, they just want a pretty bunny doll to play with which is why no one cares that they don't have the long ugly hands but they DO and HAVE whined about them having other features that the race is known for (being tall for example).

[MelodyCrystel]

[...]I just find it weird how badly people want them in game, but don't actually care the Race.[...]

Meanwhile, I find it weird how much you're into arguing about possible lore yet ignore the relatively logical reason for wood-leaving I wrote before.

Is it too boring for you when rabbit-boys would roam the world as a result to their forest being destroyed / lumbered by Garleans or whoever?

[Duskane]

So, its pretty interesting how there is such an outcry and demand for Viera Males to be in the game, but then people shoot down the idea of SE/Yoshi and team putting any effort into their lore, since this "Could" potentially be their first Canon Reveal because they have never canonically been seen by the Player or most of the world. I just find it weird how badly people want them in game, but don't actually care the Race.
So why the demand if you dont actually care about them? Whats so valuable about their existence? lol

your ideas are not so much being shot down its more so just being questioned
if they add male viera NPC to city and stuff sure there would be some flavor text to accommodate it but if its just to the players nothing really needs to be added that isnt already associated with the females,
like people are not gonna be against it but its not required.