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    Quote Originally Posted by Cilia View Post
    They should at least make Alexander and Omega required too, given how instrumental those stories are to the explanation of how the Crystal Tower is on the First.
    They're definitely key to the explanation, but in more of a background way. Missing that understanding doesn't form an actual block to storytelling potential like CT does.

    I'd certainly like to see it all made part of the main story, but I can understand why they want to keep it minimal for people progressing through the MSQ.
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    I was wondering why some Twitch steamers were suddenly doing Labyrinth of the Ancients... this explains it.
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    Ironically I did ST outside roulette for different reasons. I wanted Sands for certain glamor gear (though it turned out that the Daystar Circlet had an inferior matte finish compared to its more metallic craft-able counterpart)
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    As if it isn't already 90% CT anyway...
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    It was only a matter of time before they were gonna force this on people because of one NPC. Next they gonna say "Gotta beat the coils", though if they do that, consider me never completing the MSQ.
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    CT is already the only thing I ever get in my roulette
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    Quote Originally Posted by Rasikko View Post
    It was only a matter of time before they were gonna force this on people because of one NPC. Next they gonna say "Gotta beat the coils", though if they do that, consider me never completing the MSQ.
    One rather important NPC at this point!

    Or two, arguably - it's our first introduction to what Nero is up to post-Praetorium as well. Come to think of it, there's also his "throwing the compass into the abyss" moment at the end with it detecting something down there, whether that was meant to be the beacon we find at the start of Shadowbringers or something else again.

    And if they did make the Binding Coil mandatory, I'm sure it would come with a long-overdue "story mode" difficulty level.

    (Maybe then we could get away from the weirdness of having Urianger still delivering quests at the Rising Stones when the story has sent him elsewhere. I wonder if they could fix that that as part of the ARR restructure?)
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    (Maybe then we could get away from the weirdness of having Urianger still delivering quests at the Rising Stones when the story has sent him elsewhere. I wonder if they could fix that that as part of the ARR restructure?)
    I think when it comes to any sort of online game with an ongoing "timeline" of sorts, you pretty much have to accept that there will inevitably be some sort of timey-wimey weirdness going on, particularly if you do things out of release order, and the player pretty much just has to try to suspend their disbelief in order for it to "work"

    I mean, just look at how many copies of Gerolt we have out there. Dude's gonna get more fractured than the WoL at the rate he's going.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Rasikko View Post
    Next they gonna say "Gotta beat the coils", though if they do that, consider me never completing the MSQ.
    Most of these fights can be solod if you go in unsync, none of them require more then like 2 people. With 13 first time poetics and second chance bonuses, it shouldnt be too hard to find a few people willing to help you through these. And the coil story is actually a really nice ending to ARR, so its a shame that not everyone gets to see it.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Fynlar View Post
    I think when it comes to any sort of online game with an ongoing "timeline" of sorts, you pretty much have to accept that there will inevitably be some sort of timey-wimey weirdness going on, particularly if you do things out of release order, and the player pretty much just has to try to suspend their disbelief in order for it to "work"

    I mean, just look at how many copies of Gerolt we have out there. Dude's gonna get more fractured than the WoL at the rate he's going.
    Yeah, I know it works like that. It's still going to be better to not have a key character standing around in multiple places at once if they can help it. I think it's why they've taken so long to include Urianger as a member of the main group rather than having him arrive mid-cutscene when he has exposition to deliver, then vanish back to the Waking Sands as soon as it's over.
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