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    Quote Originally Posted by Crushnight View Post
    Hmm lore is finicky as if we take everything at face value to justify why no male Viera and female Hrothgar we get very disturbing implications.

    Male Viera
    -No male Viera ever questioned their culture and decided against the word of the wood and leave, given the Viera lifespan and their traditions this is incredibly jarring and hints the word of the wood might be something more insidious(Like why must males have the most restrictions on their freedom etc), Dalmascans and Garleans have apparently never seen them which is just odd you think even 1 would like to try and be socialable or when entering the Golmore Jungle seeing even a silloette or something especially in the Garleans case with regards to the new lore on the IVth legion.
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    Female Hrothgar 'Queens' Are Different from Male Viera.
    That being said, the MAIN reason we dont have Female Hrothgar, is they just haven't been made yet. Maybe they were gonna be made and they just didnt have the time, because the Team wanted to make a Race They wanted/felt would be needed for diversity, AND add a Race that was highly requested.
    Male Viera.....I mean its not like we as players and FF fans have ever seen one to begin with. Not like they don't exist, but even in FF they have never been seen. Besides a very small handful of rare occasions And its not that farfetched to think: like in Cultures IRL, there are those that are more devout and wouldn't break tradition, Vs other Cultures that are more lose and open to the outside world with theirs. Sometimes this even plays into the Gender Norms of their Culture. Male are & do X. Females are and do Y.

    Im not saying it can't happen or be written in. I just think the Male Viera should be given at least a little lore to go with them Joining the outside world, considering their current lore. No matter how many people in thei Thread Disagree or simply dont care.

    Quote Originally Posted by Theodric View Post
    It's almost as if some people don't actually care that much about the lore and they're just using it as an excuse to make it more difficult for male viera to be added to the game. Note how often the concerns come from posters who primarily play female characters and who rarely if ever hold female viera or female hrothgar to the same standard.
    For me, the most important thing is that they're added at some point. I think gender locked playable races (or jobs) are exceptionally sleazy as a concept.
    I guess what I said is just being ignored then...
    Its up to SE/Yoshi-P and team If & how they want to implement them. My personal stance is Id just LIKE there to be a good lore reason for them to come in. Its not some elaborate scheme to make it harder to get Male Viera into the game, its not like its even up to me. Just feels weird that a Male Viera's 1st appearance would be in an MMO instead of a Mainline game, at least one tied to Ivalice. So I think there should be Lore to Expand upon the Viera, instead of adding them "Just Because". Again, this stance is specific to Viera, because they are already established.

    Do you, like have some sort of Grudge against Female Characters or something? You like to bring attention to Female Character Players.
    I have a Male ALT ive been playing more then my Main here, so I dont JUST play a Female Character.
    And...what Standard am I suppose to Hold Female Viera and Female Hrothgar to?....And how does it relate to Male Viera?.... Im lost what your trying to say here
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    Quote Originally Posted by Zanarkand-Ronso View Post
    Do you, like have some sort of Grudge against Female Characters or something? You like to bring attention to Female Character Players.
    It's not a grudge. I simply identified a trend over the years that I have played this game. Check any thread that is relevant to suggestions in relation to male characters and there's a notable number of players posting on female characters who insist that it isn't needed. In quite a few cases they show up in threads related to female character customisation demanding that something is added right away. As was the case for many male viera naysayers who lost their minds over the 2B outfit adjustments.

    I doubt that I'm the only poster in this thread who has noticed such things.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Theodric View Post
    It's not a grudge. I simply identified a trend over the years that I have played this game. Check any thread that is relevant to suggestions in relation to male characters and there's a notable number of players posting on female characters who insist that it isn't needed. In quite a few cases they show up in threads related to female character customisation demanding that something is added right away. As was the case for many male viera naysayers who lost their minds over the 2B outfit adjustments.

    I doubt that I'm the only poster in this thread who has noticed such things.
    Right...but why is it relevant to this thread? What is the argument against Lore?
    And I dont think its the first time you said it either.
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