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    Quote Originally Posted by EaMett View Post
    All in all it wouldn't hurt to make a few tweaks to the system. But, with the lack of a general chat the NN will always reflect the rest of the player base. No better, no worse. It's just that people have much higher expectations from mentors than from the rest of the community.
    But if a mentor system is supposed to be helpful and an actual mentor system, then it should have a higher expectation than the general community. Sadly, many mentors just want the crown by their name and a mount. Not all, but enough do and that's why overall I think the mentor system is looked down upon and why some people who really are good mentors don't bother with the mentor system.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Arillyn View Post
    But if a mentor system is supposed to be helpful and an actual mentor system, then it should have a higher expectation than the general community. Sadly, many mentors just want the crown by their name and a mount. Not all, but enough do and that's why overall I think the mentor system is looked down upon and why some people who really are good mentors don't bother with the mentor system.
    Lets be honest for a second. No mentor that doesn't enjoy helping people is ever getting that mount. I'm just going to put that out there. If you don't genuinely enjoy helping others you're never making it through that grind.
    The crown could/should be changed to a book imo.
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    Quote Originally Posted by EaMett View Post
    Lets be honest for a second. No mentor that doesn't enjoy helping people is ever getting that mount. I'm just going to put that out there. If you don't genuinely enjoy helping others you're never making it through that grind.
    The crown could/should be changed to a book imo.
    I happen to know someone who grinded the mentor roulettes and got the mount. They didn't really help anyone lol. And as soon as he got the mount he never did anything with the mentor program again. So yes, there are people who don't want to help people who did the roulettes just to get the mount. It's not hard. You just do a roulette a day. It's time consuming, but you aren't required to actually help anyone or say a word. One reason why I don't think there should be any rewards tied to the mentor program.

    I agree the crown should be changed. I always thought it should be a watering can, to help the sprouts.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Arillyn View Post
    I happen to know someone who grinded the mentor roulettes and got the mount. They didn't really help anyone lol. And as soon as he got the mount he never did anything with the mentor program again. So yes, there are people who don't want to help people who did the roulettes just to get the mount. It's not hard. You just do a roulette a day. [...]
    Excuse my reaction, but... Buahaha! xD

    "Do a roulette a day"? I did at least 20 mentorroulettes per day, since they count even after obtaining the daily reward, and still tried to explain stuff for other players as good as possible.

    The only times I gave up explaining were these damned Ramuh Ex fights with 7 French in my party, since my broken school-French and autotranslation don't suffice to tell these people what to do.

    I hate the mentorcrown with a passion, but as the roulette forces it onto one's head, a Mentor should at least try to act like a rolemodel while hunting the Astrope. (Also, trying to help others when you know a dungeon /fight while they don't should be normal, not special / rare.)
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    Quote Originally Posted by MelodyCrystel View Post
    Excuse my reaction, but... Buahaha! xD

    "Do a roulette a day"? I did at least 20 mentorroulettes per day, since they count even after obtaining the daily reward, and still tried to explain stuff for other players as good as possible.

    The only times I gave up explaining were these damned Ramuh Ex fights with 7 French in my party, since my broken school-French and autotranslation don't suffice to tell these people what to do.

    I hate the mentorcrown with a passion, but as the roulette forces it onto one's head, a Mentor should at least try to act like a rolemodel while hunting the Astrope. (Also, trying to help others when you know a dungeon /fight while they don't should be normal, not special / rare.)
    I'll admit I don't know the full requirements for the mount. I do know though he did grind it out and then quit being a mentor after that. He was only interested in that, not actually being a mentor. He's not the kind of person to explain things to people, he has no patience with "noobs" and is the least mentor person I've ever met. I know this is an anecdotal example, but I doubt he's the only one who has done this.

    I wish the mentor program meant more. I think it's a good concept, just the execution is... lacking. I'm not part of the mentor program and have absolutely no interest in it as it stands now. A great many people (not all, but I would guess more than half) I have come across over all my time playing with the crown next to their name are anything but real mentors. I've seen more helpfulness from people without a crown next to their name. Now could they be in the mentor program if they wanted to be? Quite possibly and they too have just given up on it and help people just because they can and like to. I help people all the time, explain things, answer questions, but I do it because I want to and if I know the answer or fight well enough, I'll explain it. But IMO the mentor program as is, it's a joke.
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