Locking dyable artifact gear behind a extreme trial, good idea?

[Eldevern]

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Hum... how could I say that? When I'm listening some americans speaking about Europe, there are a lot but really a lot who don't realize it is not a country, then they do a fast and utterly wrong parallel between USA and Europe. I was only referring to geographical, since FFXIV Europe has two worlds (Chaos and Light).

If you wish I explicit things. I'm french and in my experience, and some feedback I had, it is not rare to see german players trolling french players (the opposite is true). A lot of dutch and german don't like french people (the opposite is true). And considering, as you say, culture, language and mindset, from a country to another, we don't have the same school system, we don't have the same traditions, we don't have the same habits, of course, we don't have the same language that leads to the consequence that if we have some shared traits of culture (christanity -thought including Russia, we then have four different christanity-, some food, some arts) we do not have the same mindset on a lot of topic (the UE as political entity is a fair demonstration of that).

So when NA players pretend it is easy to build a party for Ex and Savage, they are missing a big difference between UE servers (we have two worlds and more than twenty languages) and NA servers (three worlds, four main languages considering South America : Spanish, Portugese, English and French). Worlds and servers are shorter with pretty much more languages even only considering the most used. Since again, a lot of players are not that comfortable to play in english, International FCs we could expect are rather anonymous. We find more of them... on japanese servers (but latency... for Savage or Ex... hem...).

[Melichoir]

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The point Im making is consistency in your position, regardless of your perceptions of other people. All Im saying. Also, while I know there are quite a few americans who dont realize Europe isnt a country, despite the EU being a trade block that is in many ways operating as a country, Id like to suggest most americans know Europe isnt a Country but a continent with many countries. Would probably bolster your point even further to not assume Americans cant tell that difference and just correct on a case by case basis. Youre also shooting yourself in teh foot because you were speaking about different mindsets due to language/culture, but then said Europeans as a whole arent into the more challenging content and that is what separates US based servers from European servers. Maybe Im just not making the mental connect and you can clarify, but it sounds like youre talking cultural differences and language barrier issues between english speaking US servers and other international servers, but then refer to the mindset of Europeans (which is many cultures/languages) having the same mindset when it comes to more challenging content.

This all being said, Lets talk about party formations within the EU side of things. Since its comprised of many sub blocks with some level of language barrier, youre saying that it is not as easy as the US when forming parties for EX or Savage content.

Aiite, thats a fine premise. Less people where you can communicate would make forming parties more difficult. Cant fault that. Then you got trolling a bit between groups cause, well, from what Ive understood ribbing one another is pretty normal among europeans. Anyways, that hurts chances of forming parties. Alright. So PF isnt as efficient in Europe as in North America or South America. What I am running into is, despite all this, are you suggesting that European players cant come up with 7 other people to form a pug to do content relatively effectively? Out of server populations across europe of 120k, finding 7 other people is not possible? Even if you say there is some trolling among language groups, it doesnt mean everyone does that, particularly if people are motivated to complete content.

Im critical of this because it comes more across to me as finding excuses for not tackling content rather than anything else. Let's talk about you specifically. France is what.... roughly 6 hours ahead of the east coast of the US? Dont get me wrong, that is a fairly big time jump. But your English is more than enough to join and communicate in parties in the US servers, let alone Canada and Britain. So your worst enemy is Latency in this regards, and unless your internet is mediocre, youll be fine. If anything, your english is better than some native english speakers and you could easily act as a bridge between two language groups. More work for yourself, but its possible and would allow two groups who normally wouldnt interact to be able to work together. You could help that.

Point is that Im skeptical that all the points you are making are preventing you from gathering 7 other people to complete content. Make more difficult, sure. Ill grant that. But not so much you wont be able to get savage or ex content done. If you want to do something in the game, you'll find ways to do it. Im not saying it'll be easy as lessay the NA servers, but Im not seeing your point being sufficient enough to stop you from completing current content or that it is justified to lower content difficulty so many people can 'complete' it.

[Eldevern]

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To reply to your question, I don't say europeans share the same mindset about PF. Only... french people will looking for french people, german will looking for german people... I will not develop for each country, I guess you understand.

Does it make things more difficult? It make the PF fill often pretty slow. And when you wait two hours the pf fill and end with a troll, with someone who give up after three wipes. PF after PF, you fed up and decide you don't want to deal with random anymore.

Most of the players I know from ARR are now gone, because of IRL matters but the difficulty to build a fair PF make them less motivated to come back. The same problem goes to build a static.

In the end, for Ex, some people will not even bother, some will make the effort for the clear, but they will escape the farm.

What about me... I'm using wifi and my latency is so-so.

If you want me to be honest, are some of us jared? Probably. And a dyable gear behind an Ex doesn't sound that worthy to get motivation.

[Aniise]

To reply to your question, I don't say Europeans share the same mindset about PF. Only... French people will looking for French people, Germans will looking for german people... I will not develop for each country, I guess you understand.

This is not quite true. As a German on a German dominated server (Shiva on Light DC) I have to disagree to that sentiment. While you might be correct that a little few people that are unsure of how to speak another language like English might prefer to group with people who they can communicate with, this doesn't mean that most of the German, French or other language speaking people share the same problem.

Shiva has like...approximately 70% of German speaking people on it, Odin is also on Light and also has a very big German population. And guess what? The pf language is 95% English, the only times you see a German or French comment on there are very, very rare. English is an universally spoken language, and most children in European countries learn it pretty early on in school. If you really want a party where everyone just speaks your language, sure, go ahead and open one. But most people just don't care, speaking English is the easiest way to communicate. Thus, pfs fill up rather quick on Light - IF you are playing during prime-time, that is.

I'm sorry to give you my 2 cents about this matter, but to say that European Servers have it harder to fill pfs because of the so called 'language barrier' is just not correct.

[Eldevern]

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I suppose it has somehow changed since the last time I tried. Thinking about it, my last attempt (whatever it be with a FC or alone) seems to be... during HW (time flies, I didn't realize it was that old ) it means it was before the world split and upgrade. The feedbacks I had after were so-so and not really motivating.

I probably should give it a try... thought it doesn't solve my latency problem.