Locking dyable artifact gear behind a extreme trial, good idea?

[WhyAmIHere]

The trial is fun, but I dont understand WHY they did this? There's no reason. The gear is 480; anyone who cares about gear atm is already at 480 from Eden, crafted gear, or they are higher then that. The casual players who do the relic stuff for glamour don't do ex, and this is pretty challenging for players who don't usually do extremes. There's no incentive past beating it once to even do it again if you don't care about the gear (except like a TT card...).
I'd be fine with them locking it behind a trial like this if the gear was, say, 485. But it's not.

This.
I'm on-board with the side of "this isn't okay just to get glamour gear," and I'm definitely not what anyone'd consider as casual.
I'm just burned out at this point. The gear isn't anything but glamour at this point, so what even was the rationale behind locking glamour gear behind an EX trial that, once you get what you want out of it, there's no incentive to even do it any more? It'll end up like BLU content where if you miss out during the initial rush good luck ever getting a consistent group to do it down the road.
Aside from that why is it just the armor? I was wanting to dye the GNB AF4 Lionheart, but nope.

[dinnertime]

This.
The gear isn't anything but glamour at this point, so what even was the rationale behind locking glamour gear behind an EX trial that, once you get what you want out of it, there's no incentive to even do it any more? It'll end up like BLU content where if you miss out during the initial rush good luck ever getting a consistent group to do it down the road.

Literally the incentive is the rewards, there is nothing else after that. That is basically every battle content in this game.
The AF could be quick and cheap catch-up gear for people who are new or are gearing up their alts. It also has 5 materia slots which could be useful. It's not entirely useless to just brush it off as only for glamour.

Unless I'm missing something you can't get it without doing EX.

I don't care about the AF myself, I do cosplay character with level 1 gear and usable by all jobs.

But just because its not my problem doesn't mean I cant understand there is people who have different tastes and their friends if they have some might not be interested in doing that content.

Good for you if you like EX and your friends too but please understand not everybody share your experience.

Obviously. If you want something, you do what's required to get it. There is no "missing" here, you're more than welcome to do it or not, and it will be available indefinitely. Again, you're not being forced to do it.

Yes it's pretty unfortunate that there's no other, no "easier" way to get it, but not everything in this game is catered towards everyone either.

[WhyAmIHere]

Literally the incentive is the rewards, there is nothing else after that. That is basically every battle content in this game.
The AF could be quick and cheap catch-up gear for people who are new or are gearing up their alts. It also has 5 materia slots which could be useful. It's not entirely useless to just brush it off as only for glamour.

What's easier to do:
Farm an EX trial and pray to RNGesus for rolls, at a maximum of 10 runs to get the total number of totems for one job;
Buy crafted gear off the MB;
or run roulettes on a level 80 job and get AleTomes?

The incentive is stupid because the reward is A) Invalidated gear-score wise already by existing gear, and B) it's more work than the other methods of getting equivalent or better gear.

[dinnertime]

What's easier to do:
Farm an EX trial and pray to RNGesus for rolls, at a maximum of 10 runs to get the total number of totems for one job;
Buy crafted gear off the MB;
or run roulettes on a level 80 job and get AleTomes?

The incentive is stupid because the reward is A) Invalidated gear-score wise already by existing gear, and B) it's more work than the other methods of getting equivalent or better gear.

Tomestone gear takes a while because of the weekly limit. Same with doing Eden normal right now.
Buying the crafted gear is the easiest...if you are a crafter/gatherer who can craft it or get it crafted. And yes if you have the gil to buy it from the marketboard.

Doing the EX trial could be more work, or it could save you more time, but it still has tomes as a fail-safe so even if your RNG is bad, you'll still have the chance to get something, plus you need 19 runs to get the complete set if you get nothing. It's still a good alternative as catch-up or alt gear. The item level is still decently high with 5 materia slots. So I really don't see how the incentive is "stupid".

[WhyAmIHere]

Tomestone gear takes a while because of the weekly limit. Same with doing Eden normal right now.
Buying the crafted gear is the easiest...if you are a crafter/gatherer who can craft it or get it crafted. And yes if you have the gil to buy it from the marketboard.

Doing the EX trial could be more work, or it could save you more time, but it still has tomes as a fail-safe so even if your RNG is bad, you'll still have the chance to get something, plus you need 19 runs to get the complete set if you get nothing. It's still a good alternative as catch-up or alt gear. The item level is still decently high with 5 materia slots. So I really don't see how the incentive is "stupid".

But you're not disproving my argument at all.
Just because tome gear takes *longer* to get only makes it more time consuming, which is a variable that can't be fully taken into account because you never know who you wind up with in DF. Just like how you cant always control who you get in PF unless you have a preformed group.
And correcting me by saying you'll need 19 runs of the EX just proves my case even more, because I was not aware of that number of runs.
Jesus, that's awful.

[dinnertime]

But you're not disproving my argument at all.
Just because tome gear takes *longer* to get only makes it more time consuming, which is a variable that can't be fully taken into account because you never know who you wind up with in DF. Just like how you cant always control who you get in PF unless you have a preformed group.
And correcting me by saying you'll need 19 runs of the EX just proves my case even more, because I was not aware of that number of runs.
Jesus, that's awful.

Let's not joke around now. Capping your tomes is incredibly easy and has a multitude of ways to do so. The only thing that would keep people from capping them is if they have no time to play the game or if they don't have much time left to cap. You still need to wait weeks to get everything. Doing the EX trial is a luck-based and you can't exactly control the situation I agree, but it's not impossible to get an entire set in just one day.

19 runs is pretty bad I'll admit but I think that's how it goes with EX trials that give accessories? I'm not sure.

[Mavrias]

Let's not joke around now. Capping your tomes is incredibly easy and has a multitude of ways to do so. The only thing that would keep people from capping them is if they have no time to play the game or if they don't have much time left to cap. You still need to wait weeks to get everything. Doing the EX trial is a luck-based and you can't exactly control the situation I agree, but it's not impossible to get an entire set in just one day.

19 runs is pretty bad I'll admit but I think that's how it goes with EX trials that give accessories? I'm not sure.

Its ten runs. The EX trial gives two totems per clear. Plus it drops coffers to roll on as well.

[ForteNightshade]

This.
I'm on-board with the side of "this isn't okay just to get glamour gear," and I'm definitely not what anyone'd consider as casual.
I'm just burned out at this point. The gear isn't anything but glamour at this point, so what even was the rationale behind locking glamour gear behind an EX trial that, once you get what you want out of it, there's no incentive to even do it any more? It'll end up like BLU content where if you miss out during the initial rush good luck ever getting a consistent group to do it down the road.
Aside from that why is it just the armor? I was wanting to dye the GNB AF4 Lionheart, but nope.

I suspect their aim was for it to hopefully take the more casual playerbase longer, thereby giving them more to do. We know the original 5.3 date was mid-June. That means this content was supposed to last through May at the very least.