Skysteel Tools

[NanaWiloh]

I have no comment on them have never really been into relics. Doing one for my weaver but if I will take it all the way is up in the air.

[Maeka]

For what you have to do to get them, they aren't that bad.

Yeah, okay, they're not as good as overmelded facet, but yet for casuals... 3-ish hours of work is not that bad.

The work is repetitive, but then most work is. And, you get an item that you can upgrade next patch if you just wait a bit so it's not bad, and of course, they look nice too.

[testname]

I think it's okay for casual dandy:

( if the relic is for casuals play, then it does great job and is best relic content ever made, for normal easy going macro crafter ) 10/10 points

but: I am disappointed

Talking about whole philosophy and design

It looks to me that SE is blindly shooting ( like in ships game x, o, o, x, x )

One step forward and two backwards since end of HW ( boarding from all job changes and gameplay, and more )

Things gona change in the sake of changing

[Rufalus]

They will eventually have some kind of glow effect and temporarily be the best stat equip at the end of the current expansion, after what is warned to be a significant grind. Same like relic weapons.. it's going to turn into a timesink which won't be worth it for most people, but if you like glams and collecting things it's nice that they exist.

[Liam_Harper]

I think it's okay for casual dandy:

( if the relic is for casuals play, then it does great job and is best relic content ever made, for normal easy going macro crafter ) 10/10 points

Are they though? They're just 5ilv more than scrip and scrip tools are ridiculously cheap. Is anyone here actually using one and found it a useful upgrade? And are casuals actually having fun one button macro'ing 50 useless items as content?

[NanaWiloh]

Are they though? They're just 5ilv more than scrip and scrip tools are ridiculously cheap. Is anyone here actually using one and found it a useful upgrade? And are casuals actually having fun one button macro'ing 50 useless items as content?

Manual crafting the same 2 star item to HQ 50 times for me is annoying and not close to fun. Marco'ing it eliminates the annoying part, its still not fun but I can live that fact.

[testname]

Are they though? They're just 5ilv more than scrip and scrip tools are ridiculously cheap. Is anyone here actually using one and found it a useful upgrade? And are casuals actually having fun one button macro'ing 50 useless items as content?

You right, it takes for sure more time to get than scrip tool, but it's "Relic" and it is easy to get

It is blunt obvious that this Relic is for masses
( I made just one for myself to make my retainer happy of holding it in bag )

And for answering Your question about having fun, I think that the easier it is, the better ( I assume macro crowd just watching netflix or something - thus having fun while item is made itself )

beside relic for DoW/M is even funnier, and recent interview with Producer - makes me believe, that those relics will be more easy to get than anything before

Ranch style content will be cool too xD looking forward to it

[Liam_Harper]

Oh indeed, nothing against macros for these, more that it's 50 bland useless crafts.

But anyway, if the majority are actually happy with it then fair enough. It's an extra bonus from last expansion, where we just got regular crafted gear, so if I end up sticking to regular crafted gear I won't lose out much and can't complain. Just slightly disappointed that it's not endgame crafting. I hope they do something more with the Expert system soon.

[Caimie_Tsukino]

Oh indeed, nothing against macros for these, more that it's 50 bland useless crafts.

But anyway, if the majority are actually happy with it then fair enough. It's an extra bonus from last expansion, where we just got regular crafted gear, so if I end up sticking to regular crafted gear I won't lose out much and can't complain. Just slightly disappointed that it's not endgame crafting. I hope they do something more with the Expert system soon.

The acquisition of it is definitely not endgame crafting... this is expected though, much like how relic for the battle system is...

But to be fair, this is even MORE casual than battle relic... I think they should at least raise the difficulty by a little bit. It doesn't even require more than 350 CP for the first item... You can literally do it with level 70 gear... no, level 50...

[Jojoya]

The acquisition of it is definitely not endgame crafting... this is expected though, much like how relic for the battle system is...

But to be fair, this is even MORE casual than battle relic... I think they should at least raise the difficulty by a little bit. It doesn't even require more than 350 CP for the first item... You can literally do it with level 70 gear... no, level 50...

Perhaps compared to prior combat relics but not this expansion's. It's extremely easy to get the 1000 poetics per weapon, especially if you do hunt trains.

I feel like I'm putting more effort into getting the Dragonsung tools than I am into getting the relic weapons.

Square Enix want relics feeling more accessible to all players this expansion. The excessive grinds may be a thing of the past.