Tales from Duty Finder: Some make you laugh, some make you cry. Let's vent.

[Flay_wind]

Ugh. Physick spam Scholar in 50+ content. No Adlo, no Excog, no Whispering Dawn, no Succor. No Sacred Soil either. Just Physick. Oh, and Embrace, yes. Because that's passive. Obviously struggled with the smallest pulls.

[Ursa_Vonfiebryd]

Ahh I missed another pull debate. Well my DF story is relevent then.

This last Friday, I was behind in tomes so I had to run more than just my standard EX and Alliance. I decide to do leveling and take Scholar because healer que. Scholar was my main heals in HW but it hadn't been since then so I'm admittedly a little rusty--but I've healed expert and Copied with it so I figure we'll be fine.

We get Doma Castle which is one of my favorites so I'm stoked. Tank pulls the first two groups as a starter. We have at least one returner (I don't recall the jobs--one was a bard or a machinist i think) but we get thru the first pack pretty quickly. But before we're done, the tank pulls the Iron Giant then proceeds sprint towards where the air ship enemies are. Even pulling out all the stops we wipe. I figure dang its been a while since I healed as SCH. We try that pull again and wipe. Finally we kill enough enemies that we make it. Boss goes smoothly. We take on the next pack. We kill those but then the tank double pulls the next group to the first set of turrets. We wipe again. The tank is literally taking damage faster than I can heal. They're using CDs far as I can tell so I just chalk it up to me sucking. We wipe again before finally getting to the second boss--boss fight is smooth like the last one. The tank finally gets tired of wiping I guess so they pull smalls up to the last boss (which you kind of have to anyway). I check their gear as we're doing the last set of trash and notice they're in full augmented Scaevan gear. So... Still not sure why they were taking so much damage but the moral of this story is that they would rather wipe 3-4 times doing large pulls rather than adjust to the rest of the group.

While I am in the club that believes Tank is the defacto 'leader,' I also believe that a leader doesn't just do whatever is good for them but assesses the team and finds the best way thru based on that. Unfortunately thats not what happened in this case. XD

[TheHyperFusion]

I just removed myself from an Aurum Vale run, for the first time. I was running Bard as I'm working on it now. We get in, people look new, no problem, but they apparently had already run it before since the notice didn't pop up. However... I'm going to suspect they had others run them through unsynced as none of them knew the mechanics for even the first boss. We wipe five times, before the tank leaves... and we get a new one.

We wipe another two times, and the new tank asks if anyone knows the mechanics. Both the other DPS (melee) and the healer say "No", so the tank explains to eat the fruit at two stacks of the debuff. I then ask politely if I may offer suggestions on ability usage, and I say nothing else until I get a confirmation from the healer saying 'yes', so I offer advice on how to manage MP and abilities efficiently. DPS then yes as well, and so I offer tips on combos since they were only using their job's ranged ability.

They both take my suggestions to heart, to which I was thankful for... however, it seemed like the healer was overwhelmed by everything and the other DPS just didn't realize how to tell where their debuffs are, but the healer wasn't able to keep up on keeping HP of the group up and the DPS just let themselves get to 5 stacks of the debuff each time before dying. We wipe two more times, and I just... I abandoned it.

I don't know... I tried to be patient. But it was incredibly mentally exhausting after thirty minutes of attempts on the first boss and wiping every single time. So yeah, there's my first ACTUAL Aurum Vale horror story, and also the first time I have ever personally abandoned a duty.

[Esmoire]

Can we get a mandatory Hall of the Novice where players have to kill the correct enemy based on target markers? People are queuing into extreme trials without even knowing what "Target to Ignore" means.

Really, though. They are due for an update. I'd like if they did like... Hall of the Novice+, with another stage or two that unlocks at 50 to prepare people for 8 player content. Tanks can learn about playing with another tank, healers can be required to use Esuna, DPS can focus on targets by order and be forced to take stack markers into melee range to share.

[Ransom]

To the party that just ran furor with the Bard that died repeatedly in the final phase. I'm sorry. I know I suck. In my defense it was my first time there, and I do get somewhat better with experience, though still not 'good' by most people's standards. It's the reason I waited this long to run it, and the reason I won't be running furor again. I'm just clearing the story. My apologies.

[Enla]

Had a fun Titania just now. Mostly compromised of newbies, so it went about as well as you could expect all things considered. Except the main tank seemed allergic to tanking the boss in the middle, both tanks had to be reminded that Peas and Puck have deadly auto attacks that will wipe the party if not picked up, me having a moment where I forgot Healer LB3 had a range leading to being unable to save it from a full wipe, and a few other things it went fairly normal for an instance where at least 4 people were new.

What wasn't normal was that after that last wipe, the RDM just decided to AFK for the entire next pull. Not a word in chat, no indication they were gone. They just said 'nope' to themselves and left the rest of us to deal with it. Ironically? Didn't seem to hurt us much at all really. DPS was fine once people got on the right page with the mechanics and you could barely tell we were missing them at all. So... Congrats on the carry RDM?

[Frizze]

To the party that just ran furor with the Bard that died repeatedly in the final phase. I'm sorry. I know I suck. In my defense it was my first time there, and I do get somewhat better with experience, though still not 'good' by most people's standards. It's the reason I waited this long to run it, and the reason I won't be running furor again. I'm just clearing the story. My apologies.

Honestly, "furor run with the _____ that died repeatedly in the final phase" is a lot more common then you might believe. Once he starts combining fire and wind mechanics it can get a little hectic, and even people who know what theyre doing can wind up in the wrong place at the wrong time. It wasnt the hardest clear day one(my group easily had twice as many wipes to ramuh), but the things that made fulmination and iconoclasm hard have been figured out by a good portion of the playerbase. This fight just gets hectic. If youre honestly just interested in the story, then congrats on your clear. But if you want to get better at the fight and feel like your poor performance in the first attempt is a reason not to, i would urge you to try again. Youve seen the fight first hand. You can check a guide if you didnt understand which mechanics were killing you(and just as a refresher). I believe you can do this, if you want to.

Side note, anyone who would get upset at someone who is new to a fight not having mastered it isnt worth apologizing to. And a personal tip, in 4-5 months when the last Eden tier is released see if you can try to run it on day one. You cant "screw up" mechanics that no one has learned yet, everyones gear is in the same basic range so you wont be far(if at all) behind, and being in a group that pieces the fights together as it goes feels amazing. I understand why waiting might seem like the better idea(and you may not even have a choice in the matter), but going for it immediately lowers the pressure in a way.

[Ransom]

Honestly, "furor run with the _____ that died repeatedly in the final phase" is a lot more common then you might believe. Once he starts combining fire and wind mechanics it can get a little hectic, and even people who know what theyre doing can wind up in the wrong place at the wrong time. It wasnt the hardest clear day one(my group easily had twice as many wipes to ramuh), but the things that made fulmination and iconoclasm hard have been figured out by a good portion of the playerbase. This fight just gets hectic. If youre honestly just interested in the story, then congrats on your clear. But if you want to get better at the fight and feel like your poor performance in the first attempt is a reason not to, i would urge you to try again. Youve seen the fight first hand. You can check a guide if you didnt understand which mechanics were killing you(and just as a refresher). I believe you can do this, if you want to.

Side note, anyone who would get upset at someone who is new to a fight not having mastered it isnt worth apologizing to. And a personal tip, in 4-5 months when the last Eden tier is released see if you can try to run it on day one. You cant "screw up" mechanics that no one has learned yet, everyones gear is in the same basic range so you wont be far(if at all) behind, and being in a group that pieces the fights together as it goes feels amazing. I understand why waiting might seem like the better idea(and you may not even have a choice in the matter), but going for it immediately lowers the pressure in a way.

Thanks for the kind words. The funny thing was, I was worried about Ramuh too and that was a cakewalk. Hectic, really, is the key for the last phase there. Day One is good advice, that I usually follow, I just wasn't around day one this time and then just kept putting it off. Unfortunately, I'm a bit older than the bulk of players, so my reaction times aren't what they were, and have some severe social anxiety. Honestly, no one even got mad this time, but I tend to flash back to a guy who once tore into me so severely I almost didn't come back. Anyway, again, thanks

[AnonymousBard]

I don't accept your assertion that we have to do what the tank wants to do. Therefore, your entire argument goes out the window.

If you are out running your tank or not following their route etc etc, you're part of the issue, not the solution. Consequently, you are ruining the flow of the rest of the party and screwing the whole run up for everybody else.

Its dungeon 101. Tank goes first...

[Infindox]

To the party that just ran furor with the Bard that died repeatedly in the final phase. I'm sorry. I know I suck. In my defense it was my first time there, and I do get somewhat better with experience, though still not 'good' by most people's standards. It's the reason I waited this long to run it, and the reason I won't be running furor again. I'm just clearing the story. My apologies.

Oh don't worry too much. I've ran that fight about 10 times there and last night with a combo of most people lagging and the SCH and Monk being new, we wiped 3 times before we passed. I usually get caught up on that damn teather then run to the safe zone fast duing Rack of Pasta.