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  1. #26731
    Player
    KaleShibata's Avatar
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    Mar 2018
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    Ul'dah
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    170
    Character
    Kyzunro Shibata
    World
    Lamia
    Main Class
    Paladin Lv 80
    Ima ignore the voice in my head telling me not to get involved but here you go and i really don't see why this is an issue.

    Here's a thought as Raltar has said your choice in dungeon means you should be expected to perform in a way that does not undermind group efficiency. time is not the best measurement of a good or bad run its HOW the run goes. I've gotten max comms out of a run that took 25-30 mins because i remember how to hit buttons on paladin or gunbreaker for example. thing is you got all these different skillsets that compliment different ways, and people of varying skill levels and thats PERFECTLY FINE if you want to go slower if its communicated and accepted. this is not a monarchy/patriarchy because of your role it is a majority rules environment. if they state one action don't be the person that pitches a freaking fit over it. I don't care if: We go slow because you don't have confidence in your dungeon knowledge, go slow because you have a specific issue related to doing things or need help. TELL ME and I'll do my job as a tank and adjust. that's part of my job. healers should keep that in mind too as should the dps. its not role specific. do your part and I'll do mine. if I'm told to go big and i see a dps out in boonies still spamming single target I couldn't really care less as long as the dps is consistant or things are still dying at the pace required. if you start making it so i have to start getting fancy surviving to help the healers mp THEN we have a problem. the time we spend masspulling is EQUAL TO the time it would take to burn each packs with skilled single target rotations then I don't care.

    But lets not treat this game like a i need my morning coffee type job okay? handle any business that distracts you before queing up for higher level content. end of story. all that should be happening is things dying at reasonable pace. its stupid we have to do dungeons for story, but we could at least make it simpler by not tearing at each others throats during it and actually doing a bit of class memorization and practice ok?
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  2. #26732
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    Cincierta's Avatar
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    Gridania
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    Character
    Alaha Vellonnu
    World
    Lamia
    Main Class
    White Mage Lv 100
    I did not realize my poor experience trying to help my friend level his GNB tank created nearly 4 pages of rants back and forth. My apologies, but that whm still didn't have to be a dick to our tank that day.

    However on a good note, I stuck to healer to give him a much more comfortable experience with tanking and got him to 70. Considering he's been playing support for years, him going into tanking was a trial in of itself to break out of old habits. He's doing better as a tank at least.
    (6)
    This one is beyond your help. Only sleep can save her now.

  3. #26733
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    ArianeEwah's Avatar
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    Character
    Ari Dyones
    World
    Zodiark
    Main Class
    Warrior Lv 90
    I had a very wholesome leveling roulette on my alt today.

    Went in with SCH, get Cutters Cry, 3 sprout in my party: PLD, DRG, SMN. The best part was their names, and that made it clear that they were premades. Maximus, Minimus, and another "Monty Python's Life of Brian" reverence, but it didn't end with "Longus", but "Smolus" instead.
    Even funnier was that the PLD was a Lalafell, the SMN a Hrothgar, yet the Lalafell's name was Maximus, and the Hrothgar ones Minimus.
    DRG died once to the explosion from adds before 1st boss, followed by PLD. They even wrote in the chat "apparently I'm retarded", followed by "same here" xD
    The run was very smooth, the tank knew how to pull and mitigate properly, and the party did very good damage overall, so we were done pretty quick despite the first deaths.
    I wanted to recommend very single one of them, but I only have that many to give. Even got 3 comms. ¯\_(ツ)_/¯
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  4. #26734
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    Keddera_StormMoon's Avatar
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    Character
    Tifka Stormmoon
    World
    Siren
    Main Class
    Scholar Lv 90
    Feh, Pull big, pull small - I'll heal you either way or die trying. I'm not arrogant enough to even pretend that my time is anymore important that the next rando I see in the duty finder.

    Only time I get peeved when things are slow is when the DPS is single-targeting, which I've seen an awful lot of lately.....
    (4)

  5. #26735
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    KaitoAsaha's Avatar
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    Ul'dah
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    Character
    Erotic Humor
    World
    Balmung
    Main Class
    Lancer Lv 29
    These last couple of pages reminded me of the heated discussion that happened last year on how one person felt that the tank was the leader of the group, and so dictated how the run should go. I didn't get involved, but they tend to provide me with a good read, during my breaks at work. I think the shared opinion was it's a group effort, there are no leaders.
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  6. #26736
    Player Neoom's Avatar
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    Bed
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    Character
    Neo Avialae
    World
    Cerberus
    Main Class
    Astrologian Lv 80
    If I get one more of 0 dps lvl80 healers who overheal 99% of the time I'm gonna scream (louder than I already do). As a healer main i hurt so bad looking at them play. I know healers don't have to dps, but sure as hell should do so when we have the skills to do that and have downtime for it. Even more if people are 100%hp please even dot the boss if anything else...
    I need to lay down and hope I get better healers next time when I do duties.. :/
    (4)

  7. #26737
    Player
    Cincierta's Avatar
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    Gridania
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    Character
    Alaha Vellonnu
    World
    Lamia
    Main Class
    White Mage Lv 100
    Over an hour ago I did not know that as a nin, I could be a dps carry in 70 content. Twenty minutes ago I found out that I could, specifically Skalla, against a blm that was the epitome of laziness. Fire 1 Fire 3 Fire 1 Fire 3 Transpose Blizzard 1, repeat. Somehow he died to the first set of sprite adds by from what my friend was telling me 'both cone aoe's to the nads.'
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  8. #26738
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    Katie_Kitty's Avatar
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    Character
    Princess Whiskers
    World
    Exodus
    Main Class
    Red Mage Lv 100
    Quote Originally Posted by AnonymousBard View Post
    As a Tank main I\\'ll weigh in on the ongoing Big vs Small pulls.

    I will have to side with Celbrean on this one.is up to snuff in pugs.
    I don't accept your assertion that we have to do what the tank wants to do. Therefore, your entire argument goes out the window.
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  9. #26739
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    Reinha's Avatar
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    Finland
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    Character
    Reinha Sorrowmoon
    World
    Odin
    Main Class
    Reaper Lv 100
    Can we get a mandatory Hall of the Novice where players have to kill the correct enemy based on target markers? People are queuing into extreme trials without even knowing what "Target to Ignore" means.
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  10. #26740
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    Frizze's Avatar
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    Frizze Steeleblaze
    World
    Lamia
    Main Class
    Black Mage Lv 100
    Quote Originally Posted by Cincierta View Post
    I did not realize my poor experience trying to help my friend level his GNB tank created nearly 4 pages of rants back and forth. My apologies, but that whm still didn't have to be a dick to our tank that day.

    However on a good note, I stuck to healer to give him a much more comfortable experience with tanking and got him to 70. Considering he's been playing support for years, him going into tanking was a trial in of itself to break out of old habits. He's doing better as a tank at least.
    There are a few topics that always take over this thread for a day or two if they come up in the right way. Big vs small pulls for tanks is, obviously, one of them. "Should healers deal damage" is another.
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