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  1. #21
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    Do you even realize most of those so called mod only modify one piece of gear and often doesn't compatible with other gear combination?Go play around with those Fallout 4 mods before you are claiming it is an easy job to modify the entire gear database of FF14.
    Muh Fallout 4, we're taking about hair here, go and try, your game wont break.
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    Quote Originally Posted by yukiiyuki View Post
    Muh Fallout 4, we're taking about hair here, go and try, your game wont break.
    The skeleton is different for these two new races, which part of it you don't get it?
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    I suspect the disparity they think there is is in part due to the monster hunter trial. That isn't touched anywhere near as much as the rest of the content.
    Heres a fight in an MMO that follows 0 MMO rules, makes one archetype almost completely useless 50% of the way through the encounter, and is almost impossible to do if someone is having latency issues. The only things of note from it are that it unlocks mentor roulette and has a really ugly mount.

    "Why arent people playing this?!?!?!?!?!?!"


    Ultimate gives you nothing but a title and weapon with no benefits other than to look pretty
    Sparkly stuff is a reward in a game where the only sparkly stuff is relics and ultimates.

    I would do a whole hell of a lot for a set of armor that had twice (or more) the surface space glow of the Hydatos tank armor. I would do SIGNIFICANTLY more than if you gave me gear with more stats, because if you arent a crafter, stats in 14 are as meaningful as the points on whose line is it anyway.
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    Last edited by Barraind; 04-08-2020 at 04:54 AM.

  4. #24
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    Quote Originally Posted by Kalise View Post
    Oh boy, I can't wait for the new dungeon. /s
    Did you forget the design contest winner entries being implemented, gear design overall, YorHa, and compensating for the 'rona? And next tier of Eden? Some including voice acting. In how many languages? 5??
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    Quote Originally Posted by iVolke View Post
    This is probably the easiest forum to bait.

    y'all are kinda dumb tbh

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    Quote Originally Posted by EaMett View Post
    I suspect the disparity they think there is is in part due to the monster hunter trial. That isn't touched anywhere near as much as the rest of the content. I can feel for their concern.
    People don't do the MonHun trial, because it's a shit trial.
    It also isn't actually challenging - just tedious, annoying and not really following the trinity properly, while somehow also trying to enforce it and failing to do so, given the most efficient way is to cheese it with 4 tanks, despite only the shitty add being actually tankable. They could've simply given us a normal boss without cast bars and AoE markers - it's not like there aren't enemies that work like this already, even if only for a couple of attacks - but instead they tried way too hard to make something that doesn't actually work in XIV's engine, while discarding anything the game is good at.

    If they're using Rathalos EX as a measure of how interested players are in "difficult 4 man content", then I guess we've got as much hope of getting it, as for tanks and healers to get fixed.

    Quote Originally Posted by xxvaynxx View Post
    Ultimate?
    Ultimate gives you nothing but a title and weapon with no benefits other than to look pretty. It has the same ilv as the raid weapon and just adds I think extra mat slots which isn't much unless you like to parse and even then, it's not gonna give you a huge edge over people that just cleared savage.
    Ultimate is done mainly for challenge, but it's also actual THE hardest content in the game - which comes with certain prestige. EX/Savage level difficulty dungeons wouldn't carry this much weight, so they'd need to put some sort of rewards behind them.

    I don't think it would hurt to get extra way of obtaining gear though. Especially if they'd be implemented in the catch-up pathes, together with ally raids, then they could serve well for obtaining something like savage-level gear for alts. They could put some sort of a weekly restriction of these as well and they wouldn't be making savage irrelevant.
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    Quote Originally Posted by frostmagemari View Post
    Those are benefits. You get a unique title and a weapon; And then after you get those benefits, you stop doing them. People don't do the Ultimate fights just because, they do them to get those rewards and then leave the content alone once they've gotten those rewards.
    Ultimates are exactly what i mentioned.. do a thing, get your stuff.. then stop doing the things entirely.
    This is not true. Most players willing to tackle Ultimate do so for the challenge of defeating a very difficult fight. Would as many people clear it without rewards? No. But you'd still see a good chunk of the people running Ultimate still doing it for a clear.

    Quote Originally Posted by Barraind View Post
    Heres a fight in an MMO that follows 0 MMO rules, makes one archetype almost completely useless 50% of the way through the encounter, and is almost impossible to do if someone is having latency issues. The only things of note from it are that it unlocks mentor roulette and has a really ugly mount.

    "Why arent people playing this?!?!?!?!?!?!"
    When the best strategy for that fight is running four Warriors, it's not exactly a good selling point.
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    Last edited by ForteNightshade; 04-08-2020 at 09:26 AM.
    "Stand in the ashes of a trillion dead souls and ask the ghosts if honor matters."
    "The silence is your answer."


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    Quote Originally Posted by ForteNightshade View Post
    This is not true. Most players willing to tackle Ultimate do so for the challenge of defeating a very difficult fight. Would as many people clear it without rewards? No. But you'd still see a good chunk of the people running Ultimate still doing it for a clear.
    You have an extreme minority being willing to tackle Ultimate now, even with its rewards. You wouldn't see a chunk of anyone running Ultimate for a clear if it was simply a fight and no reward from it; you would see a tiny fraction of the community try for it.
    It would be similar to the one player that did a solo sam run of all 200 levels of PotD; sure, you'll have that one guy, but that's it.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Divinemights View Post
    The skeleton is different for these two new races, which part of it you don't get it?
    That's nice and dandy, still people manage to port old hairs to Viera heads, replacing some slot, because they can't create new one. And oh god, it works completely fine, not all hairstyles for sure, but still more than SE gave us. But you're like a broken tape, if you created something for Fallout, you can download program name and test it for yourself. I can't help you with that because modding is restricted by ToS.
    We're talking here about billionaire company that don't provide funds to port old hairstyles to new heads, 3d modeling might be hard, but it's not a rocket science and if you have money, you can find people who'll do the work.
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  9. #29
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    Quote Originally Posted by frostmagemari View Post
    You have an extreme minority being willing to tackle Ultimate now, even with its rewards. You wouldn't see a chunk of anyone running Ultimate for a clear if it was simply a fight and no reward from it; you would see a tiny fraction of the community try for it.
    It would be similar to the one player that did a solo sam run of all 200 levels of PotD; sure, you'll have that one guy, but that's it.
    That's a poor comparison since PotD/HoH isn't remotely the same as raiding, thus it isn't going to attract the same players. There aren't any mechanics. People play harder modes in single player games where the only reward is an achievement saying they beat it.
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    Quote Originally Posted by ForteNightshade View Post
    That's a poor comparison since PotD/HoH isn't remotely the same as raiding, thus it isn't going to attract the same players. There aren't any mechanics. People play harder modes in single player games where the only reward is an achievement saying they beat it.
    I would say its rather apt, really. The player's type of preferred content isn't important, its that the player is willing to do punishing content for zero reward.
    You claimed "Most players willing to tackle Ultimate do so for the challenge of defeating a very difficult fight. Would as many people clear it without rewards? No. But you'd still see a good chunk of the people running Ultimate still doing it for a clear." and i likened the circumstance to that 'that one guy' that will do something punishing for zero reward, but that will be all.
    Right now, Ultimate participation is below 1% of the total population of the game, and that's with the rewards and possible prestige; remove the rewards and you won't have a handful of people willing to do it.
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    Last edited by frostmagemari; 04-08-2020 at 12:10 PM. Reason: Removed the needlessly rude lead in.

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