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    Except Aspected Benefit is closer to Adloquium than Regen. So it doesn't have a Regen.
    And you basically confirmed my point by saying Aspected Helios is a Medica II analogue. Why not call it a Succor analogue?
    The only thing AST takes from WHM that is not also shared by SCH, is the fact that it has 2 tiers of basic heal, Benefic and Benefic II. And using Benefic is mostly pointless once you get II. I wouldn't complain if the spell was upgraded, and then you couldn't call it a WHM clone.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Seraphor View Post
    Except Aspected Benefit is closer to Adloquium than Regen. So it doesn't have a Regen.
    You mean, other than the fact that Aspected Benefic is instant cast? Provides a Regen much earlier than it provides a Shield? Is also alongside a Benefic II which is what Adloquium represents for SCH?

    If you're saying that the heal upon application makes Aspected Benefic more like Adlo than Regen, consider the fact that it is literally just applying the tick of Regen that is lost in the difference from AB's Regen being 15s duration (So 5 ticks) vs Regen's 18s duration (So 6 ticks)

    Quote Originally Posted by Seraphor View Post
    And you basically confirmed my point by saying Aspected Helios is a Medica II analogue. Why not call it a Succor analogue?
    Because Helios exists and is a Medica analogue.

    There is no extra Succor skill that doesn't provide an extra effect. Such a skill can only be created via using Emergency Tactics on Succor.

    Helios literally 1:1 equates to Medica.

    Thus Aspected Helios 1:1 equates to Medica II which is "Helios/Medica but with an additional effect"

    Quote Originally Posted by Seraphor View Post
    The only thing AST takes from WHM that is not also shared by SCH, is the fact that it has 2 tiers of basic heal, Benefic and Benefic II.
    As well as 2 tiers of AoE heal, Helios and Aspected Helios. As well as an instant cast heal with lasting benefit in Aspected Benefic.

    Literally, outside of oGCD's, AST and WHM's healing kits are identical. With the only difference being that AST can eventually use Nocturnal Sect to replace the HoTs with Shields.

    Meanwhile, SCH is still sitting there with a different kit entirely. With the only shared aspect with WHM being the tier 1 heal having no additional effects (Physick and Cure I)

    Adlo takes the place of Cure II and instead of being a big fat heal, rolls in an additional effect in the form of the shield.

    Succor is SCH's only GCD AoE heal, which is taking the place of both Medica and Medica II as a result.

    There is no single target instant cast heal for SCH. They instead have healing from their fairy to provide a similar effect or have to substitute for casting Adlo's for the shield.

    AST could have been unique too.

    It could have had Horoscope instead of Helios/Aspected Helios.
    It could have had Excogitation instead of Aspected Benefic.
    It could have had Benefic instantly proc (And consume) delayed effects on the target (Such as Excog) instead of having Benefic II.

    Causing it to have, not only a unique way of healing through delayed effects, but a base healing kit that is structured differently to that of WHM/SCH (Even if the above does come across very SCH-esk there could have been further alterations, such as drawing cards using a mechanism that provides healing output)
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    Last edited by Kalise; 04-03-2020 at 03:05 AM.