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    Quote Originally Posted by Yshtola View Post
    So what now? Maybe reflect on what hasn't been mentioned directly. The list of questionable addiction can be as long as you want it to be. Believing that most people in this thread are speaking the truth, including yourself, is statistically impossible. I don't care if you're a drug addict or anything else, we're all flawed. Might want to use some introspection, because there's no way you or anyone else in here is always questioning themselves when they purchase something.
    Hey real quick question, might be related, who knows... how long are your arms? Mine are a bit longer than average (makes it hard to find shirts and jackets that fit, y'know), but I suspect yours can beat mine by a landslide.
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  2. #42
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    Quote Originally Posted by Billythepancake View Post
    What does any of that have to do with anything?
    Could have quoted the whole thread to be honest.

    Quote Originally Posted by Doozer View Post
    Almost doubling the monthly fee just to have a large house is insane. We don't all make the big bucks.
    Quote Originally Posted by Penthea View Post
    I am really not fond of the idea of purchasing playable content when we already pay a sub and have to pay for expansions.
    Quote Originally Posted by MomomiMomi View Post
    $10/mo and your house still gets demolished? I have no words. I just can't.
    Quote Originally Posted by CoffeeBuns View Post
    No thanks. I already pay for a sub, I shouldn't have to pay more for a damn house.
    Quote Originally Posted by Lalarrific View Post
    I'd rather not have FFXIV turn into ESO. Once we start paying real money for houses, it's only a matter of time before $150 super-duper premium houses start being offered.
    Quote Originally Posted by Lambdafish View Post
    This is an awful idea OP, housing should be for everyone, not just the mogstation whales. Should we also give premium access to other content like dungeons, raids etc.
    People cry about the thought of having to spend the equivalent of 2 kitkats per month. It's just hilarious when you know damn well they will be anything but frugal when it comes to other things.

    Also worth noting the same people are, ironically, disagreeing with a suggestion that would achieve just what they want when it comes to housing.
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    Last edited by Yshtola; 03-27-2020 at 12:31 AM.

  3. #43
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    Quote Originally Posted by Yshtola View Post
    People cry about the thought of having to spend the equivalent of 2 kitkats per month. It's just hilarious when you know damn well they will be anything but frugal when it comes to other things.
    Wrong. I have a crisis every time I have to buy something I don't need (i.e. isn't required in order to keep living, such as food, medicine, etc.), including subbing to this game. I'm always afraid I'm wasting money. So I'm fully aware that adding an extra price tag to the game just to have something that's already in it is stupid.

    Also... how much do Kitkats cost where you are that makes two cost up to $10? That's absurd. Then again, you seem to make a point of moving goalposts and referring to things that were vaguely implied to be mentioned that we should be arguing against instead of the actual words people used, so you're not exactly a wealth of rationale.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Doozer View Post
    Wrong. I have a crisis every time I have to buy something I don't need (i.e. isn't required in order to keep living, such as food, medicine, etc.), including subbing to this game. I'm always afraid I'm wasting money. So I'm fully aware that adding an extra price tag to the game just to have something that's already in it is stupid.

    Also... how much do Kitkats cost where you are that makes two cost up to $10? That's absurd. Then again, you seem to make a point of moving goalposts and referring to things that were vaguely implied to be mentioned that we should be arguing against instead of the actual words people used, so you're not exactly a wealth of rationale.
    Sounds like you need help, but you're posting on a forum instead. I guess it explains why you're relying on cherry picking certain elements instead of using the whole context, but go on, keep dancing.

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  5. #45
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    Quote Originally Posted by Yshtola View Post
    Sounds like you need help, but you're posting on a forum instead. I guess it explains why you're relying on cherry picking certain elements instead of using the whole context, but go on, keep dancing.

    Oh I see now, you're a troll. Sorry, your willingness to jump on any thread about housing led me to believe it was something you were really passionate about, not that you seek to troll people but can only really ever do it in very narrow context. My mistake.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Yshtola View Post
    Could have quoted the whole thread to be honest.
    I most certainly could not have quoted the entire thread. Others at least addressed the OP or we're having a discussion about the conversation. Your posts were literally just calling people addicts with no credibility or reason to.

    Also to throw this out there, regardless of how little it is, I don't agree with having paid housing. They made a bad system with a lot of problems, so instead of fixing those problems and just including it with your subscription, the idea of having to pay extra for the solution is a terrible one. It sets a bad precedent for future problems they could make, why fix the problem and include that update in the game when they could charge you instead. There are better solutions besides taking more money.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Billythepancake View Post
    There are better solutions besides taking more money.
    Exactly this. Can people afford it? Maybe. Does that mean it's a good business practice? Not really.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Billythepancake View Post
    I most certainly could not have quoted the entire thread. Others at least addressed the OP or we're having a discussion about the conversation. Your posts were literally just calling people addicts with no credibility or reason to.

    Also to throw this out there, regardless of how little it is, I don't agree with having paid housing. They made a bad system with a lot of problems, so instead of fixing those problems and just including it with your subscription, the idea of having to pay extra for the solution is a terrible one. It sets a bad precedent for future problems they could make, why fix the problem and include that update in the game when they could charge you instead. There are better solutions besides taking more money.
    Everyone has some sort of addiction, whether they want to acknowledge it or not. Since nothing's free, everyone is spending money on things they don't necessarily think twice before purchasing.

    I'm not the one insisting over the morality of it, I'm just pointing out how outright hypocritical and delusional it is to say that something entirely optional shouldn't be available for X amount of money, given the context we are discussing.

    There's plenty of extremely easy solutions to fix this situation, but yet again, all you people only really do is whine and complain. The problem here isn't supply, it's the demand.

    By the way, why shouldn't housing be on the same level as anything else this game offers in exchange of money? You can skip the base game and 2 expansions, but heaven forbid you could own something totally optional for a few dollars?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Big_Bap View Post
    There's plenty of extremely easy solutions to fix this situation, but yet again, all you people only really do is whine and complain. The problem here isn't supply, it's the demand.
    Care to elaborate?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Big_Bap View Post
    Everyone has some sort of addiction, whether they want to acknowledge it or not. Since nothing's free, everyone is spending money on things they don't necessarily think twice before purchasing.

    I'm not the one insisting over the morality of it, I'm just pointing out how outright hypocritical and delusional it is to say that something entirely optional shouldn't be available for X amount of money, given the context we are discussing.

    There's plenty of extremely easy solutions to fix this situation, but yet again, all you people only really do is whine and complain. The problem here isn't supply, it's the demand.

    By the way, why shouldn't housing be on the same level as anything else this game offers in exchange of money? You can skip the base game and 2 expansions, but heaven forbid you could own something totally optional for a few dollars?
    I should probably get this out of the way first, I genuinely had no intentions of responding to this thread, as.housing just is not an issue on my server, and others more or less gave my opinion, albeit not one to one, so I didn't feel I had anything to add. Your antics have been so crazy bonkers I couldn't help myself, so if you're a troll then you're a master of your craft because I played right into your hands

    As for why they're not the same, because playing the game isn't a problem. Nobody has ever said "man, I wish I could play the game, but I don't want to play the game". The developers did not create a problem to sell you the solution. That is not me defending the mog station,btw, I don't like it as a whole, but that's not the conversation we're having, just that those 2 things are not the same. Premium wards would literally be the devs creating a shortage of housing so they could sell you a house. That in my mind is the same as me poisoning you so then I could sell you the antidote, see how that might be a problem? Is it optional, sure, but its a piece of content that people want to play, but unlike other content, there is nothing you can do it there aren't houses available, and paying to circumnavigate that is a big problem, even if it were $0.10 a month I wouldn't like it.
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