Some views on DPS balance that everyone cares about

[Renkei]

Yeah I'm not sure if you realize the fact that having no control over it is a downside, not a benefit to the skill. It just goes to show how you little you understand about its value as 'utility'.

The funny thing is, if you could control when you cast it, you would have a much stronger argument about it being something that summoner should be taxed for. If that was the case, they would actually be able to use it effectively in fights and sync it with mechanics. Instead, you pretty much just activate phoenix for dps, and leave it to chance whether you need the heal at that time (spoiler: you don't).

Does that sound nice to you? Hey, I'll swap it for bloodbath, deal? I mean, you don't actually think having to manually activate a skill like bloodbath is some kind of huge game changing difference right? Are rotations so taxing that a little bit of extra thought to press an ogcd feels like a huge source of stress? Don't be silly, it's one button. If that was the price you had to pay to get separate control over phoenix's heal, every summoner would pay it on the spot.

Don't get me started on how all the summoner skill consolidations like that in Shadowbringers actually make your life harder, not easier. Now when I saw the news back in 2019 I already thought it was a bad joke, but never in my wildest dreams did I imagine someone would try and spin it as an upside, haha.

Because you clearly haven't been listening to my point. Actually It's Two Buttons, Because Job's have to use Blood-bath and Second wind just to output 500 HPS.

You DO NOT even have to time it and accounting for over-heals you are still outputting 800 eHPS, which is higher then any job that has reactive self healing among DPS.

I still find it funny that i have to explain it 3 different ways in order for it to make sense, In normal play without going out of your way for it, summoners are outputting this kind of HPS.

Sometimes these heals are game changing, but it's not like you would know anything about that because you have all your HPS built into your rotation with what you said earlier "The same Complexity as Dragoon."

I never even said anything about making it a separate button for summoner i was just explaining a fact of it providing crazy amounts of HPS.

I have explained when it works it works and when it doesn't it doesn't, Obviously a person cannot explain that with any less complexity yet you claim that i cannot understand that as a utility when you don't understand clearly the utility of NOT HAVING TO PRESS 2 BUTTONS TO GET FREE HEALS DURING THE ENTIRE FIGHT.

Circular Argumenst, Ad Hominem, Ad Populum, Red Herring, Straw Maning, base rating, applied Slippery slope and False equivalence. I am waiting to see what Logical Fallacy you land on next i don't see how you even get likes with this kettle logic.