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  1. #81
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    Mavrias's Avatar
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    Jyn Willowsong
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    Quote Originally Posted by Kaliesto View Post
    Training with the different mechanics, normal mode can't provide that.
    PF description for a savage fight: "learning from the beginning."

    if you want to experience the savage fight's mechanics, do the savage fight.
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  2. #82
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    Enla's Avatar
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    Crushing Fatigue
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    Balmung
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    Quote Originally Posted by Mavrias View Post
    PF description for a savage fight: "learning from the beginning."

    if you want to experience the savage fight's mechanics, do the savage fight.
    Not only that but if you're done the normal variation you've seen a lesser version of around 30% of what the Savage fight might end up being like, which isn't anything to sniff at. But otherwise yeah, the only way to train for Savage is to do Savage. You can play around with the Extremes to get yourself better accustomed to a somewhat high level of content than what the casual side of this game requires - but there's going to be no more powerful tool than just slamming your face into the Savage wall and learn the hard way like everyone else.
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  3. #83
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    Miminming's Avatar
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    Arclest Aura
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    Belias
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    Savage is hard because theres 7 other people, is you can train anything solo, then even ultimate will become easy
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  4. #84
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    Avi Taro
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    Quote Originally Posted by RyuDragnier View Post
    For anybody who thinks current Savage is too hard...you poor poor summer children. You know not of the horrors of Gordias. That tier almost destroyed the raiding community.
    I still see Living Liquid in my nightmares sometimes.
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    "Run when you have to, fight when you must, rest when you can." - Elyas Machera, The Wheel of Time

  5. #85
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    Videra Svenay
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    Quote Originally Posted by Cirque-it View Post
    If a raid is impossible to clear using its party finder mechanic, its too hard for an MMO in my opinion.

    Eden Savage 5 is WAY to hard for an MMO.
    I feel like you're the kind of person who thinks spending thirty minutes in expert roulette is normal.
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  6. #86
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    Dixie Nesquik
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    Jenova
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    Quote Originally Posted by Cirque-it View Post
    If a raid is impossible to clear using its party finder mechanic, its too hard for an MMO in my opinion.

    Eden Savage 5 is WAY to hard for an MMO.

    Yes because content literally called savage is meant to be easy and for everyone.
    Sorry, but some content ISN'T meant for everyone, savage is meant for players who actively want a challenge and find the difficulty to be fun and engaging. Besides, e5s is one of the easier ones, and im saying that as our FC static's off tank on this fight for christs sake, ot is probably the hardest job next to healer in the fight, and even i think it's not that hard once you learn the mechanics.

    Theres still regular edens you know, it'd be stupid if they made savage also easy, also it's not fair to the players who want a challenge. SE keeps making the game easier and easier, people who actually want a fun challenge to do with their fc mates deserve to have some savages and ex's; theres tons of easy, yet still engaging content in the game for casuals to enjoy as is.

    And why 'for an mmo'? Is it because you need actual teamwork? In that case why not join an fc, or get on discord for some callouts/coordination? Theres tools out there to make these raids more manageable, even with randos.
    If you ask me, i think you're just being lazy/stubborn. We have people in our static who are totally new to raiding, die a lot, yet they STILL keep trying. Hell, the other tank didn't know what a tank swap was and i had to explain it during ruby ex, but the thing is they didn't give up and kept trying to improve, so i have mad respect for them. Players who maybe start out a little bad, but dont give up? You have my total support! Players who bitch and moan about wanting to be carried and say content is too hard though... no respect from me lmao.

    Please stop pushing your selfish all about me attitudes into content. Both casuals AND hardcores deserve content, and because of that some content just isn't gunna be fun for some people, thats how life is and learn to deal with it.
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  7. #87
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    Khloe Lafihna
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    I think its fine the way it is. Savage content needs to stay exactly that. Savage.
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  8. #88
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    Dippin' Dots
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    Nah git gud
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  9. #89
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    Adrian Gungnir
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    Dragoon Lv 100
    Please don't demean and insults others, this doesn't help anyone.
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    Last edited by Kaliesto; 03-25-2020 at 12:33 PM.

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    Ewitt Rainbow
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    Balmung
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    Fisher Lv 100
    It does get nerfed every time new savage content comes out and a mega nerf every level cap increase.
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    Commendations.
    If I play dps I only give it out to other dps.
    If I play tank I only give it out to healers.
    If I play healer I only give it out to tank.

    Only if they should be getting a commendation.
    There are always exceptions to the rules!

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