Suspend housing demolition due to COVID-19

[MsMisato]

Who said a game is a necessary thing? People are just calling for demolition to pause because there is a global issue right now taking people away from their gaming machines or depriving them of their income. SE have done this in the past with natural disasters which have also deprived people of access to gaming machines or their income. SE are the ones who have set this expectation based on their actions in the past. It shouldn't be surprising that threads like this exist.



Not everyone gets paid enough to make this possible. Stop grading how responsible you think others are based on just your personal life circumstances. In some places rent is so high it makes it near impossible to make savings. And before you say "just move!" it's quite hard to when you can't even save much in the first place. Never mind how now is the worst time to do something like this.

Good god have some shred of empathy, please.

And that's why I said it was going to be mean with what I had to say. Do what you can to make it happen. simple as that. I save up for a whole year working 12.50 an hour at REI while paying rent. I finally got a job that pays twice as much only to have it gone, but I managed to save up. I live in Seattle so please I know how expensive rent can be. So yea I get it but no you had this option to save before this happened.

[Moonlite]

I think people like yourself are missing the point here. For a lot of people, being forced to stay inside also means not getting paid. Sure, houses aren't being razed and cities aren't being submerged, but a pandemic doesn't help pay the bills. It affects people in other ways that still make getting by on a daily basis difficult, whether they are infected or not.

You are also missing the point. Look at what they suspended housing for. They are all situations that might cause actual structural damage to internet. People have financial changes all the time. Do they get a special one time don't lose your house button?



Now SE could come out and say that they suspended not for structural damage and it was for just personal hardship. Also you guys aren't even taking into account that examples people still paid , but might not have had access to a PC. We have had wildfires in general area and people live in shelters. Not a lot of PCs used to login at a shelter. If they would just tie houses to active subs SE might not even suspend at all.


And really if you guys are asking for anything, why aren't you asking for a free month of game play or one month of deferred sub. That is more in line with utilities and banks.


Also this whole housing demo is silly. They should just do demos at every major patch. Would keep things more organized.

[Unaki]

And that's why I said it was going to be mean with what I had to say. Do what you can to make it happen. simple as that. I save up for a whole year working 12.50 an hour at REI while paying rent. I finally got a job that pays twice as much only to have it gone, but I managed to save up. I live in Seattle so please I know how expensive rent can be. So yea I get it but no you had this option to save before this happened.

Your posts aren't helping. "You should have saved up a safety net and foreseen this coming MONTHS AGO!" is the worst possible thing you can possibly say. Not everyone is fortunate enough to be free of medical necessities resulting in inflated healthcare bills, have a job that pays above minimum wage (Hint: Minimum wage is NOT 12.50 an hour), or have little to no bills allowing them to save money. Oh yeah no one can see into the future and see that a virus crippling the world's economy is going to happen 6 months from now either.

[Zumi]

Why another thread about this? There's no need to freeze housing demolition.

There is a reason because of all the chaos going on now. Maybe once things calm down and go back to normal and people can play again they would like to not be further upset by losing their house on ff14.

[Vahlnir]

And really if you guys are asking for anything, why aren't you asking for a free month of game play or one month of deferred sub. That is more in line with utilities and banks.

Because THAT would be unrealistic. And we know what they have done in the past, which is halting housing demolitions. So people are simply asking them to do what they have done a few times before instead of asking them for the ability to play the game for free.

[ServerCollaps]

I live in a country where people actually get paid when being in quarantaine. Isnt that normal worldwide (except for usa maybe? "best healthcare in the world")?

[Unaki]

You do realize that most Americans live month to month, barely make enough to buy groceries for 2 weeks and can't afford even a $400 dollar unexpected expense, right? Only the wealthy have this privilege, no one else, as working hourly is not enough to sustain a life beyond your basic needs. An emergency fund is an impossibility in most, if not all cases, so your patronizing does nothing to help others.

That said, and more in like with the actual topic at hand, I personally don't see this as a valid reason to suspend housing demolition, but that's only due to the fact that housing as a whole is finite and limited and if they suspended housing for someone every time a person was hospitalized or sick, there would never be plots open. It's the principle of the thing, pandemic or not.

Downplaying the severity of the virus and the pandemic is one of the worst things you can do. Stop treating the virus like its nothing because it isn't. Its so bad that Italy is having to bring in the military to burn the dead because they don't have room for them or the countless people hospitalized every single day. The number of cases are only growing every day and its getting worse so stop pretending like this isn't a pandemic. As I've asked in another thread, what makes an earthquake that displaced less than 100,000 people more important of a situation to suspend housing demolitions than a virus that is bringing the civilized world to its knees and leaving millions of people without a job? Why does a global epidemic of this scale hold less value than an earthquake that only had an effect on a fraction of the population?

[Penthea]

And that's why I said it was going to be mean with what I had to say. Do what you can to make it happen. simple as that. I save up for a whole year working 12.50 an hour at REI while paying rent. I finally got a job that pays twice as much only to have it gone, but I managed to save up. I live in Seattle so please I know how expensive rent can be. So yea I get it but no you had this option to save before this happened.

Good for you if you got yourself sorted but that doesn't justify your attitude.

Firstly a lot of people who play this game are students. They won't have the income from full-time work obviously due to having to do classes, and well in your country students have to pay often LUDICROUS fees for third level education and sometimes even more insane fees for text books on top of that. Think those people get the opportunity to save up 3 months+ of living expenses? You're kidding yourself if you think more than a minority get to. Sure they may have time off now and could do full time work but the job market is going to be really bad due to the closure of many places.

And please don't say "if you're in college you shouldn't play games" because it is downright unhealthy for mental wellness to not have some leisurely activities, and paying a sub for a game isn't expensive enough that stopping could make it easy to save up for 3+ months of living expenses.

Secondly not everyone has your personal life circumstances. Just because you may get the same pay cheque as someone else doesn't automatically mean you have the same expenses to cover. Some people have health issues which require medical attention and medication, a dependent who relies on them (a child for example), debts to pay off (and likely so in the USA due to the stupidly high educational and health related fees), or maybe they just entered a new chapter in their life and used their savings to do something like move to a new city or even buy a home.

Sorry to burst your bubble but you're not some model of the average citizen. Everyone has different lives and different challenges in them. I'm glad you don't have to worry about things but damn maybe try to realise not everyone in this world navigates life on equal footing.

Thirdly you say you managed to save up, which is something that takes time. What if the virus came earlier in your life, hmm? What if all this happened before you were able to save up enough? How would you feel then? I'm sure you would feel the sense of dread many are facing right now, and you wouldn't take kindly to someone telling you that you should have saved up. All savings start from zero. You could have been unlucky enough for this global situation to begin when you had not even the chance to begin making your own safety net.

Get off your high horse and appreciate the fortune of your situation instead of preaching.

[NessaWyvern]

And really, like someone else said, if you're hospitalized, your house should be the least of your concerns.

If an earthquake hit, destroying your home, and infrastructure around it, your house should be the least of your concerns. A tsunami, or a hurricane? It should also be the least of your concerns, but they have stalled it in the past, when it didn’t affect the majority of their players....

And yet, a global pandemic, that is having an affect on people being able to keep their jobs, their homes, or their lives? Where thousands of people have already died?
Nah fam, obviously not bad enough for a housing suspension /s

[Theodric]

Even as someone who owns a house myself...I'd rather not see the housing demolition timer paused yet again. A minority of players actually own a house in this game. The majority of players do not. I'm not fond of the idea of extending the 'lockout' on houses when it punishes the majority.