Lost my House

[Melichoir]

You can doubt as much as you want, I did it with my first two mansions. And they were still too little (I want a castle or Haukke Manor or maybe share the castel with Feo :3). And now what bother me is both that apartements are so tiny and we can't even have a proper use of the mezzanine since we need to use glitchs to put something on.

I did say I dont doubt you two would use them...

Again, My cynicism and skepticism is derived from what I see people do currently - Argue for a house. Fight for one, then dont do anything with it other than hold it.

The housing system sucks. What i think is, the current system should just be for FC houses and make the private houses instanced , so everyone gets to access that part of the content , because we all payed equally for the game and monthly paying to play it as well. It is very unfair that others gets restricted out of that content.

We should also all get the same mounts, titles, glamours, etc as anyone else, regardless of effort or time put into the game. You didnt do Tea, well heres the weapons for it anyways. Also the title. You after all pay the same sub as everyone else, so you should have access to those things, yes? What about PvP awards. Etc etc.

Paying your sub doesnt entitle you to the benefits of content that exists. The devs have provided us with our own personal housing spaces (either in FC room or Apartment). That is the bare minimum. Anything more than that is a competition with other players for a resource. Again, why is the go to response to housing "Gut the system, give everyone an isntanced house, wards be damned" instead of suggesting improvements to the apartments which already are instanced.

[Eldevern]

I did say I dont doubt you two would use them...

My mistake. Blame the missing quote

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Extra rooms, maybe not, but some kind of duplex... they can use and M and L interiors

[Nicodemus_Mercy]

My mistake. Blame the missing quote



Extra rooms, maybe not, but some kind of duplex... they can use and M and L interiors

Well the "extra rooms" I mentioned would function just like FC houses do with having that door that lets you select where to go. They would serve the purpose of an "outdoor" area for gardening and a "workshop" like FC houses have access to. But as I said if that's too much of an ask, SE could simply make new interior housing objects that allow access to those features (crossbreeding and airships/sub missions).

The primary issue I think many people have with apartments aside from size/item count, is that they are still locked out of certain features which are only available if you have an actual house. Simply addressing that, and perhaps offering larger apartment sizes and a higher furnishing count would probably stem much of the calls for more housing I think.

[Melichoir]

Well the "extra rooms" I mentioned would function just like FC houses do with having that door that lets you select where to go. They would serve the purpose of an "outdoor" area for gardening and a "workshop" like FC houses have access to. But as I said if that's too much of an ask, SE could simply make new interior housing objects that allow access to those features (crossbreeding and airships/sub missions).

The primary issue I think many people have with apartments aside from size/item count, is that they are still locked out of certain features which are only available if you have an actual house. Simply addressing that, and perhaps offering larger apartment sizes and a higher furnishing count would probably stem much of the calls for more housing I think.

And that might be the more feasible option. Keep the current system in place, and improve the APT system to have tiers size wise. Housing would still be better by virtue of pricepoint and location, but APTs will give you a reasonable option. For example, what if you could have essentially a cottage sized apt: 200 Item space, up and down stairs, same size as a cottage, and a small outside area where you can place 10 outdoor items (like a balcony kind of deal) and it costs you 2 Mil in Gil. You get almost all the perks of a small house, and its cheaper. It's instanced so anyone can get one so long as they got the cash, there isnt competition for location cause thats a non issue, and it leaves the wards and neighborhood intact and wouldnt require restructuring the servers as housing interiors are already instanced so its just a matter of swapping out the location. This would be, in my estimate atleast, a good compromise and solve a ton of the issues presented.

[Nicodemus_Mercy]

And that might be the more feasible option. Keep the current system in place, and improve the APT system to have tiers size wise. Housing would still be better by virtue of pricepoint and location, but APTs will give you a reasonable option. For example, what if you could have essentially a cottage sized apt: 200 Item space, up and down stairs, same size as a cottage, and a small outside area where you can place 10 outdoor items (like a balcony kind of deal) and it costs you 2 Mil in Gil. You get almost all the perks of a small house, and its cheaper. It's instanced so anyone can get one so long as they got the cash, there isnt competition for location cause thats a non issue, and it leaves the wards and neighborhood intact and wouldnt require restructuring the servers as housing interiors are already instanced so its just a matter of swapping out the location. This would be, in my estimate atleast, a good compromise and solve a ton of the issues presented.

Yea just improving apartments would probably quell the bulk of housing complaints.

Even without different tiers of apartments (though I don't see why that would be an issue), just increasing the item count allowed in an apartment to at least equivalent to a small house, adding an "indoor hydroponics planter" furnishing, with even just 4 plots for seeds (like the Round Garden Patch furnishing for yards), and an "indoor airship/submarine remote access terminal" furnishing to let players access those features in an apartment would go a long way towards addressing the complaints of players looking for housing.