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  1. #41
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    Granyala's Avatar
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    Ifalna Sha'yoko
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    White Mage Lv 100
    Quote Originally Posted by Packetdancer View Post
    Honestly, I've seen more struggles with giant pulls when people forget they're synched down to i440
    The trick for the first groups is:
    The healer stays behind until the shadow Exergon locks onto another target. Then the healer sprints in and insta heals the tank. Tank needs to use CDs to bridge the gap.
    If you do this, the healer doesn't get the debuff and the mass pulls are nice and easy.

    Only mass pulls that hit a bit harder are the ones before the last boss but CD usage takes care of that.
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  2. #42
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    PyurBlue's Avatar
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    Saphir Amariyo
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    Brynhildr
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    Thaumaturge Lv 40
    Quote Originally Posted by ForteNightshade View Post
    It's far more likely queues would become unbearably longer for certain dungeons than increase. If you could veto five dungeons from Leveling, I can all but guarantee which ones would be picked.
    What if you couldn't pick 5?

    And therein lies the problem. Four of them are story required, which means new players could be waiting hours. Amaurot would have a similar problem simply because of the ilvl sync.
    There are ways to get around this, I mentioned one in the second half of my quote. It's really only a problem in your example because the number of vetos you used is enough to cover all of the most unpopular dungeons, and that's assuming the dungeons you listed really are the only ones people would avoid. As with the Alliance Roulette, players will queue for leveling expecting different things. Some people only care about getting the reward, they might choose to skip The Vault or Doma Castle over Sastasha and Copper Bell.
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  3. #43
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    GojuSuzi's Avatar
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    Cerih Gealai
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    Phoenix
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    Culinarian Lv 80
    I like the idea of having *one* exclusion option. Main reason is myself and my friends are doing MSQ together but have different schedules. When they're not free to continue, I jump around solo. But multiple times I cannot run the levelling roulette (or trial roulette, or whatever) because I might get the one for the next step in the MSQ and have to drop. I've seen several others have the same issue, where their alt jobs catch up to a level where the 'pause' duty is now available and they have to stop running stuff solo until others catch up.

    So yeah, being able to veto a single option to stop yourself getting the duty you promised others you'd wait on them for, or just cannot stand, shouldn't be that big of a deal. After all, even if it's the latter, better to have. A slightly longer wait time while you can be doing hunts or side quests or crafting or whatever, than get in and have someone drop instantly and then have to wait out that extra time inside the duty.
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  4. #44
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    Packetdancer's Avatar
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    Khit Amariyo
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    Leviathan
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    Sage Lv 100
    Quote Originally Posted by GojuSuzi View Post
    I like the idea of having *one* exclusion option. Main reason is myself and my friends are doing MSQ together but have different schedules. When they're not free to continue, I jump around solo. But multiple times I cannot run the levelling roulette (or trial roulette, or whatever) because I might get the one for the next step in the MSQ and have to drop. I've seen several others have the same issue, where their alt jobs catch up to a level where the 'pause' duty is now available and they have to stop running stuff solo until others catch up.
    I think a simpler solution for this scenario than a single dungeon exclusion would just be having roulette only put you into duties you've already cleared once. Then you'd be able to do leveling roulette without hitting the duty you hadn't yet done and were waiting on them for.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Packetdancer
    The healer main's struggle for pants is both real, and unending. Be strong, sister. #GiveUsMorePants2k20 #HealersNotRevealers #RandomOtherSleepDeprivedHashtagsHere
    I aim to make my posts engaging and entertaining, even when you might not agree with me. And failing that, I'll just be very, VERY wordy.

  5. #45
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    Spiroglyph's Avatar
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    Soft Boiled
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    White Mage Lv 90
    I'm kind of torn on this as removing anything from a roulette would kind of go against the idea of it being a roulette, after all - would also go against the idea behind making roulettes with rewards available in the first place, which is to fill up parties for instances that would otherwise take much longer to fill.

    However at this point, I'm getting so sick of getting Labyrinth of the Ancients every single time for alliance roulette that I can't really say I disagree with this suggestion. Maybe have the option of removing a one or two instances?... Please, just let me get something Other than LotA already. /cry
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  6. #46
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    Casper Colt
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    Summoner Lv 90
    I actually agree. Would be nice if we could tick off one dungeon per roulette we didn’t want. I’d even take less rewards if that’s the trade off.
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  7. #47
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    Fluff Fluffles
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    Midgardsormr
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    People, if you get the same dungeons/trials often it probably means there are still a lot of people doing those for progression.

    If people were able to "disable" the "annoying ones" then the entire point of the roulette would be defeated as the idea is that it exists to help players outside the initial expac rush, to catch up with the rest of us.

    You think that "just allowing us to disable one dungeon" is harmless because you are thinking of yourself and not how many would do the same or similar moves.

    The system is simply working as intended.
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    Last edited by AHelpingPaw; 03-09-2020 at 09:32 PM.

  8. #48
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    Amethyst Orchid
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    Machinist Lv 80
    Quote Originally Posted by AHelpingPaw View Post
    People, if you get the same dungeons/trials often it probably means there are still a lot of people doing those for progression.

    If people were able to "disable" the "annoying ones" then the entire point of the roulette would be defeated as the idea is that it exists to help players outside the initial expac rush, to catch up with the rest of us.

    You think that "just allowing us to disable one dungeon" is harmless because you are thinking of yourself and not how many would do the same or similar moves.

    The system is simply working as intended.
    Yet I had a group of all level 80s and got Sasha lol out of all the dungeons we could have got or every day the entire alliance walking around in 60+ gear but you always get laby lol

    I'm sorry but I honestly don't believe its because people are single qing for it you can tell that when they are watching the Cs at the start are their level more or less =s the dungons level which rarely ever happans its just massively rng and nothing else
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    Last edited by LolitaBansheeMeru; 03-09-2020 at 10:39 PM.

  9. #49
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    Nyr Ardyne
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    Balmung
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    Paladin Lv 100
    Quote Originally Posted by LolitaBansheeMeru View Post
    Yet I had a group of all level 80s and got Sasha lol out of all the dungeons we could have got or every day the entire alliance walking around in 60+ gear but you always get laby lol

    I'm sorry but I honestly don't believe its because people are single qing for it you can tell that when they are watching the Cs at the start are their level more or less =s the dungons level which rarely ever happans its just massively rng and nothing else
    Getting satasha with all 80s is just a matter of luck.

    Getting LotA in alliance roulette all the time is because people cheese the system to always get it by removing gear and lowering their ivl below the requirements of other alliance raids. This is why it can be very difficult to get into certain alliance raids like orbonne monestary because people are using loopholes to get out of it, undermining the purpose of roulettes.
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  10. #50
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    Sturm Churro
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    Marilith
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    White Mage Lv 100
    I don't know who the heck would ever want to get Orbonne in Alliance Raid roulette, that one is worth leaving if someone else does so you don't get a timer.
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