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  1. #61
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    SturmChurro's Avatar
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    Sturm Churro
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    Quote Originally Posted by MelodyCrystel View Post
    :facepalm: In case it's a regular requirement, you just need to have cleared the Ivalice-raids - no matter if that was yesterday or when they were new. (And IF the devs expect a fresh clear, then that'll be when the relic-patch is out, but I personally don't see that being a thing.)

    EDIT: I still think eating the penalty isn't immediately necessary. See the first boss a ka how the alliance performs and then consider leaving--- before that point, it isn't fair to instantly abandon the groups.
    So, for anyone who isn't queuing directly for Orbonne, or the other Ivalice raids to specifically complete them for the first time, doing it again through the roulette is a pointless waste of time? Agreed.

    I'd rather get into LoTA, get outta there in 15 minutes, than spend 45 minutes in some trash tier raid for the same reward. That's just me though, and I'm a realist.
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  2. #62
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    TheMightyMollusk's Avatar
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    Iyami Galvayra
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    I'd rather do anything in the roulette than Labyrinth or Syrcus again. They're just so friggin' boring. But that's all that comes up, so I just don't do that roulette anymore.
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  3. #63
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    Johnathan Riftborne
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    From a subjective viewpoint, yes please. If i never do thousand maws again it will still be too soon for me.

    From an objective viewpoint, nah. I think its great that older/outdated/annoying content is added to roulettes. There are still plenty of first-timers that want to experience that content at least once or even need to, that might not have access to large FCs or statics to try out that content. Heck, i wouldnt have been able to experience some of the ARR and HW optional/end game content if it wasnt for roulettes. Matter of fact, i'm annoyed that roulettes dont seem to pick up all the old content. Ive sat in queues as a Tank for optional Extreme trials (like limitless blue) for over an hour without so much as a nibble. But i dont have an excessive friends list or a 200+ member FC to pick parties up in. How many people actually want to do sastasha? Now imagine it was only newbies that ran it? Those queue times would probably triple imo, and that would turn alot of potential future fans away.

    /my2cents

    EDIT: Plus, its fun imo running some of the cooler dungeons. Like somebody else said, imagine actually having fun every once in a while... (Sarcasm)
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    Last edited by AnonymousBard; 03-10-2020 at 04:54 AM. Reason: Spelling
    “It's a dangerous business, Frodo, going out your door. You step onto the road, and if you don't keep your feet, there's no knowing where you might be swept off to.” -Lord Of The Rings

    "Guess I should've brought sea-salt ice-cream huh?" -Axel, Kingdom Hearts III

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  4. #64
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    Qynden Peltier
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    An endgame dungeon that cannot be cheesed with ridiculously high item levels? Scary, frightening even. Just the very prospect of doing that dungeon again sends shivers down my spine /s.

    Don't want the ever present threat of getting Amaurot? Don't do the roulette. You only need to run Expert Roulette, which you can roll your face across the keyboard because insanely high item levels, once a day 5 times a week to cap tomestones anyway.

    Quote Originally Posted by AnonymousBard View Post
    From a subjective viewpoint, yes please. If i never do thousand maws again it will still be too soon for me.
    The Thousand Maws of Toto-Rak needs to just be completely reworked. I myself don't mind doing that dungeon but, the design of that dungeon is probably the worst out of all dungeons in the entire game. It seemingly drags on forever. The extreme linearity, more extreme than Sastasha or Copperbell Mines, adds to its feeling of absolute and abject boredom, and misery for some people. The green pools that constantly slow you are very annoying, the slow isn't too bad, but the constant "debuff" and "debuff expiring" sound effects are, I shouldn't have to mute the game in order to not go insane.
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    Last edited by Cithaerias_pyropina; 03-10-2020 at 05:06 AM.

  5. #65
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    LukaRoselia's Avatar
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    Elaina Plato
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    Yeah, no. Removing Amaurot and anything else related to the main story from the roulette would be insanely stupid considering players need those for their story progression. And no, they shouldn't have to play a boring single player run with npc's in an MMO.
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  6. #66
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    Quote Originally Posted by Cithaerias_pyropina View Post
    Don't want the ever present threat of getting Amaurot? Don't do the roulette. You only need to run Expert Roulette, which you can roll your face across the keyboard because insanely high item levels, once a day 5 times a week to cap tomestones anyway.
    Exactly. You can literally cap in a few hours or less just from spamming expert, it really isn't hard.
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  7. #67
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    Khit Amariyo
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    Quote Originally Posted by Cithaerias_pyropina View Post
    The Thousand Maws of Toto-Rak needs to just be completely reworked. I myself don't mind doing that dungeon but, the design of that dungeon is probably the worst out of all dungeons in the entire game. It seemingly drags on forever. The extreme linearity, more extreme than Sastasha or Copperbell Mines, adds to its feeling of absolute and abject boredom, and misery for some people. The green pools that constantly slow you are very annoying, the slow isn't too bad, but the constant "debuff" and "debuff expiring" sound effects are, I shouldn't have to mute the game in order to not go insane.
    Not to mention that 67.4% of the time (all made-up statistics are 108.2% more amusing if arbitrarily precise to at least one decimal place) someone tears off at a sprint and the party follows, only to realize much later that in that mad dash one magitek photocell got overlooked somewhere back along the path, and so you end up having to backtrack to grab it.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Packetdancer
    The healer main's struggle for pants is both real, and unending. Be strong, sister. #GiveUsMorePants2k20 #HealersNotRevealers #RandomOtherSleepDeprivedHashtagsHere
    I aim to make my posts engaging and entertaining, even when you might not agree with me. And failing that, I'll just be very, VERY wordy.

  8. #68
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    Johanna Yevon
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    Odds are I missed it, but did anyone ask OP what Roulette they are running?
    Because Amaurot has been out of Expert Rotation for abit now. And I doubt Leveling is putting them there
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  9. #69
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    Johanna Yevon
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    Quote Originally Posted by TheMightyMollusk View Post
    I'd rather do anything in the roulette than Labyrinth or Syrcus again. They're just so friggin' boring. But that's all that comes up, so I just don't do that roulette anymore.
    Missing out on some easy tomestones there captain
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  10. #70
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    Iyami Galvayra
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    Quote Originally Posted by Zanarkand-Ronso View Post
    Missing out on some easy tomestones there captain
    Expert gives 90 tomes per run. It's not that much more interesting, but at least I get my full skill kit. I can cap tomes in five days, even without also running Eden's Verse. Not really missing out on anything.
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