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  1. #1741
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    Bright-Flower's Avatar
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    Nyr Ardyne
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    Reminds me once when someone used an in game item that made other characters appear naked to try and say a character of mine was ERPing, except the difference there was it was an item in game in WOW and not a mod. And also nothing came of it because it was easily debunked. A shame the person in this example had to leave the game over it.
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  2. #1742
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    Penthea's Avatar
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    Nettle Creidne
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    Quote Originally Posted by Granyala View Post
    Hmm, any respectable forum would have banned the offenders. In this case the persons posting their fantasies and the screenshots.
    Yes Blizzard can't do anything in such a case, because to them it's all hearsay. The people in her guild were idiots. Even if she posted the screens for attention seeking, I still don't see a problem with "revealing clothes" in a PEGI-12 game. I mean, there is nothing to see there.
    From what I recall, at this point it was a very long time ago, it was a forum made by some mutual friends between the victim and the offenders. It wasn't some big organised fan site or anything. There were a lot of players there but point being it wasn't funded or managed by a company, just ordinary players.

    Quote Originally Posted by Granyala View Post
    Instead of quitting the game, wouldn't have a different choice of ingame attire been the much easier way? After all, yes skimpy stuff exists in low level (even in high level AQ robes etc) but there was always a choice. As long as she wan't a cutting edge raider (fat chance with that personality) it wouldn't have mattered.
    She wore that gear because the stats were good. She didn't really care that it was revealing until the screenshot harassment started. She had no idea that screenshots of her were being taken (because you had no way to know and from what I understand you still have no way to know). She did get different gear but by then the damage had been done.

    She didn't quit the game. She simply shelved the character, started fresh on a new server and cut herself off from everyone who was in the forum where the harassment occurred. She didn't even tell her guildmates where she went. Last I heard of her she didn't have that sort of trouble again, thankfully. When I last spoke with her, which was years after the harassment, she was raiding in a really great guild and was having a good time. She did recover but the harassment did make her shy nature worse for a long time.

    Quote Originally Posted by Granyala View Post
    Completely agreed on the second part. But IMHO that also goes for the reverse. If a player chooses to display skin, no other player should be able to cover it up.
    I completely agree with this myself. I just wanted to make it clear that I hold nothing against those who do enjoy having skimpy outfits. I just don't want them on my character.

    The closest things I have to skimpy outfits are some 2B dress glams (I don't use the matching legs because I don't fancy flashing my knickers and the curves around it to the world, and as we know the curves are very extra with the matching legs) and a swimsuit glam because our fc house is located right beside a body of water. Most of the time I dress pretty modestly as far as revealing skin goes.
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  3. #1743
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    In the history of MMOs, this is the most petty topic ever created. By a lala of all things.
    And they say the viera thread is bad. Ahah.

    Go play a single player RPG if you can't handle people wearing items that the game developers themselves put in the game for the said purpose of it being seen.
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  4. #1744
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    Matthieu Desrosiers
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    Quote Originally Posted by VirusOnline View Post
    Go play a single player RPG if you can't handle people wearing items that the game developers themselves put in the game for the said purpose of it being seen.
    Of note, the development team only added certain outfits in the first place due to a very vocal portion of players demanding that they be added. Of course, those same individuals never quite manage to take their own advice of finding another space that caters directly to them and instead seek to claim that everybody else has to leave when they want to tweak things to their liking, even when and where it doesn't affect other players in any reasonable way.

    It's unfortunate that so many players claim to be all for more options when it suits them, but they cannot handle options that appeal to a different sub-set of players.
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  5. #1745
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    Tristain Archambeau
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    Quote Originally Posted by VirusOnline View Post
    In the history of MMOs, this is the most petty topic ever created. By a lala of all things.
    And they say the viera thread is bad. Ahah.

    Go play a single player RPG if you can't handle people wearing items that the game developers themselves put in the game for the said purpose of it being seen.
    I am sure they can handle it. Many people can handle looking at unsightly things. Quite a separate thing from whether they want to keep doing it, though, if the possibility of an option to remove it from sight exists...
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  6. #1746
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    Quote Originally Posted by Bright-Flower View Post
    Reminds me once when someone used an in game item that made other characters appear naked to try and say a character of mine was ERPing, except the difference there was it was an item in game in WOW and not a mod. And also nothing came of it because it was easily debunked. A shame the person in this example had to leave the game over it.
    What do you guys even get onto in these games where this is even a thing? I have literally never once had to deal with player behavior like this. "Quit the game". A lot of people need to stop treating games like this like second life, but literally a "second life". Ridiculous. It's a game.
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  7. #1747
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    Quote Originally Posted by Theodric View Post
    Of note, the development team only added certain outfits in the first place due to a very vocal portion of players demanding that they be added. Of course, those same individuals never quite manage to take their own advice of finding another space that caters directly to them and instead seek to claim that everybody else has to leave when they want to tweak things to their liking, even when and where it doesn't affect other players in any reasonable way.

    It's unfortunate that so many players claim to be all for more options when it suits them, but they cannot handle options that appeal to a different sub-set of players.
    You've founded the definition of politics. Congratz, I guess.
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  8. #1748
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    Ifalna Sha'yoko
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    Quote Originally Posted by Penthea View Post
    The closest things I have to skimpy outfits are some 2B dress glams (I don't use the matching legs because I don't fancy flashing my knickers and the curves around it to the world, and as we know the curves are very extra with the matching legs)
    I find the concept of a changing butt depending on clothing to be a wee bit disturbing, so I'd never use the pants myself. What can you do about fanservice eh?
    I do like to wear long skirts / dresses and shorter boots, so when running around, occasionally there is a wee bit of lower leg visible. \O/

    Quote Originally Posted by SturmChurro View Post
    What do you guys even get onto in these games where this is even a thing? I have literally never once had to deal with player behavior like this. "Quit the game". A lot of people need to stop treating games like this like second life, but literally a "second life". Ridiculous. It's a game.
    Do you refer to the harassment or the erotic roleplay part?
    I've never seen the former to such a degree either (in almost 20yrs of gaming) but I did encounter E-RP a number of times. Can be fun if both sides are in the mood for it.
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  9. #1749
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    Jitah'li Habhoka
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    Not saying I'd want this feature, but I'd definitely use it to dress up all the slutglammers.
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  10. #1750
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    Quote Originally Posted by Granyala View Post
    Do you refer to the harassment or the erotic roleplay part?
    I've never seen the former to such a degree either (in almost 20yrs of gaming) but I did encounter E-RP a number of times. Can be fun if both sides are in the mood for it.
    The whole thing. It's weird. I know there are creeps online whenever they hear a girl's voice on the internet, but some of these people go really far. Frankly, those guys are really annoying. Anyway I was getting at how there are people who act like their character is actually an extension of themselves, like second life. Treat the game like it's reality. Sure, I have had some guild drama in the past, and I am a person who likes to argue for arguing's sake, and I usually just say what's on my mind at that very second, but there's a line there. People need to seperate the game from real life. They are not one and the same.
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