It's time (Option to Hide other players Glamour)

[Theodric]

Oh, but it does solve it just fine. Why ask the devs to put resources into a problem that players can solve themselves by looking away? I'm not being deceptive, though maybe a little dismissive. However, I am also using common sense.

It's up to the development team themselves to decide whether the resources are worthy of investment. Though given that Lord of Verminion is updated every single patch despite seeing a very small amount of engagement from players I'm inclined to think that a proposal such as this is not nearly as 'impossible' or 'useless' as some are seeking to imply. Furthermore, the development team has already gone to great lengths to allow players to tweak their experience to their liking. Another toggle isn't going to bring the game to a crashing halt. Some desire it for the sake of immersion - others just do not want to look at characters designed to be as revealing and suggestive as possible.

You can keep repeating the phrase that people can just look away, though that's another deceptive argument that doesn't take into account the simple fact that different people see and experience things differently. Some players are hyper-perceptive and can't help but take note of things that stand out. It's much the same way as how players should not be forced to watch a video and expect to pick up mechanics through such a medium when there's groups of players who learn best through reading a written guide and others need to experience a fight directly to get to grips with it.

[Lauront]

Don't look at words people say which you don't like, either - removes the need for a blacklist and mature language filter!

What a genius idea. If only SE had thought of that, they'd save so much in unspecified resource amounts!

[Barachim]

You have to realize that a lot of this thread is the same people posting over and over in order to keep the post showing. Not all, but a fair amount. I'm sure some would use it, but I wouldn't use this thread as any sort of gauge of interest.

Well, I guess we'd have a clearer indication of the interest level, if half the Thread weren't filled with people telling others why their opinion is wrong. It seems to be getting bumped a lot, by the very same people who want to see it dead.

[Awha]

This seems like an odd amount of blacklash for what boils down to as other have said another option that would allow a person to have more control over their in game expereince. Gamers have been altering their in game experience for ages, not a 100% sure why some people are taking such offense over the suggestion and turning it into what largely amounts to a personal attack on ones choice. When such a feature would enchance the choice of the player base.

There's nothing deceptive about using common sense. I don't know what else to say. Not everything in this world needs to be a "safe space".

Do not think it has much to do about creating a safe space, I am one those players that uses what others would call ridiculous glam since I generally go with things I find funny. Even so I do understand what my character looks like might bother someone, but even so I am not going to take steps to alter how I look because people may be bothered by what my character looks like, but if such a feature was adding that would not even need to be a concern, and may lead to an improvement across the board in terms of player experience.

I have a choice in what I dress my character as, I do think others should have a choice as to what they see on their screen. Sure they look away, but the same could have been said about the performance mute feature people could have just mute the game in towns, but overall it is not a bad option to have since it allows for players more control over their own personal expereince which could lead to an overall better experience. Which does not seem like a bad idea honestly.

[Vahlnir]

You can keep repeating the phrase that people can just look away, though that's another deceptive argument that doesn't take into account the simple fact that different people see and experience things differently. Some players are hyper-perceptive and can't help but take note of things that stand out. It's much the same way as how players should not be forced to watch a video and expect to pick up mechanics through such a medium when there's groups of players who learn best through reading a written guide and others need to experience a fight directly to get to grips with it.

There's nothing deceptive about using common sense. I don't know what else to say. Not everything in this world needs to be a "safe space". People aren't forced to watch videos either. That is a choice. They also have the choice to form their own groups or join blind runs. The 2 can't really be compared in your sense, but they can be compared easily in mine which gives people the choice of choosing to, or not to, looking away from what one dislikes.

[Granyala]

Ok, then please explain how a client site only Glamour Toggle feature would affect everyone else?

Because I lose control over how my character is displayed on the screens of a significant portion of the playerbase.
Simple as that.

That affects me, esp as a role player.

So the statement "nobody is affected" is simply: false.

[Theodric]

There's nothing deceptive about using common sense. I don't know what else to say. Not everything in this world needs to be a "safe space".

I'm not really sure what you're getting at, honestly. For starters, what you're pushing as common sense is simply a subjective opinion. Secondly the proposed feature is more about tweaking the experience of the game to one's personal tastes so the 'safe space' accusation seems pretty unwarranted.

Certainly, in terms of how the thread has played out so far it would seem the phrase is far more applicable to those who are branding people 'bigots' for not liking specific types of glamour.

[Lauront]

Because I lose control over how my character is displayed on the screens of a significant portion of the playerbase.
Simple as that.

That affects me, esp as a role player.

So the statement "nobody is affected" is simply: false.

Hmmm no, you only "lose" control over how people who don't like how your character looks being able to block it from their end. Note: he said "everyone else". The original comment also referred to anyone but the person whose glamour is being blocked and yet here you are referring to yourself as a counter-example to a statement Krotoan did not make in the first place.

As for you being a roleplayer, I fail to see what difference it makes. Do you think the people you roleplay with would use the feature on you? Or are we talking about randoms who you're not really roleplaying with in any sense, anyway?

[Awha]

Because I lose control over how my character is displayed on the screens of a significant portion of the playerbase.
Simple as that.

That affects me, esp as a role player.

So the statement "nobody is affected" is simply: false.

In the grand scheme what are the chances of you finding out the person has the feature enabled? At large it would require you to make the assumption that most people will use the feature for it to impact you personally.

[Luthiene]

How close are y'all's cameras that you can even see what other people are wearing? If I'm in a duty I'm so zoomed out/focusing on the game that I can't be bothered paying attention to what glamour someone has on.