Trying to understand player behavour with MB & MSQ dungeons

[DumdogsWorld]

I skip CS in hopes I get that one group that also does it, generally I do not lose much of anything doing so.

You...you just openly admitted to using an exploit on the public forum.

Yikes.

[EtherRose]

You...you just openly admitted to using an exploit on the public forum.

Yikes.

Uh, if i remember correctly all you do is relog to skip the cutscene. Technically, that is not an "Exploit". Personally they should make two separate roulette for the 50 MSQ where it divides players who want to watch cutscenes as opposed to those who don't want to.

[KatCnaa]

Uh, if i remember correctly all you do is relog to skip the cutscene. Technically, that is not an "Exploit". Personally they should make two separate roulette for the 50 MSQ where it divides players who want to watch cutscenes as opposed to those who don't want to.

You'd get sprouts waiting in even longer ques while the veterans/sprouts who don't want to watch cutscenes get shorter ques. Then the ONLY way to watch the cutscenes is to convince 7 other people to que with you or go back later in an unsync run on your own time to watch them all after you've gone through more of the MSQ.

[Jojoya]

Uh, if i remember correctly all you do is relog to skip the cutscene. Technically, that is not an "Exploit". Personally they should make two separate roulette for the 50 MSQ where it divides players who want to watch cutscenes as opposed to those who don't want to.

That's very much an exploit. That's a player knowingly engaging in an activity that will intentionally bypass an intended mechanic.

What they need to do is add a Trust style system to Praetorium and Castrum, then remove the MSQ roulette altogether. New characters can use the Trust or form a pre-made group with friends to run them. Other players have plenty of options to chose from to get XP/tomestones.

I mean it makes sense if the person has the desire to crash the market, especially when it generally annoys others. I could only imagine it is oddly satisfying to know that ones actions lead to a crash in a certain market, especially when one may have so much gil they have nothing else to do with it.

If other players didn't panic at the first undercut, markets wouldn't crash unless supply dramatically increased from other than normal sources (looking at you, Quick Ventures) or demand died out.

If you know price activity for an item is unusual, sit tight or pull out for a few days. As long as supply/demand hasn't changed overall, the market will rebound.

[Moonlite]

That's very much an exploit. That's a player knowingly engaging in an activity that will intentionally bypass an intended mechanic.

What they need to do is add a Trust style system to Praetorium and Castrum, then remove the MSQ roulette altogether. New characters can use the Trust or form a pre-made group with friends to run them. Other players have plenty of options to chose from to get XP/tomestones.

Yes I don't understand players. Friend got suspended from 11 for going afk on summoner and letting his pet kill anything that agroed. They said that was not how the game was suppose to work and don't do it. He did it anyways and suffered.


Why didn't they make trusts go to 8 man and then you would be bale to do all 8 man content as well. Also why do the trusts have to be some special NPCs, can't they just be some generic fill out the roster place holders till more special NPCs get added. If that is the reason why we didn't get 8 man trusts. Did anyone ever ask why trusts were limited to 4 man parties?

[Iscah]

Uh, if i remember correctly all you do is relog to skip the cutscene. Technically, that is not an "Exploit". Personally they should make two separate roulette for the 50 MSQ where it divides players who want to watch cutscenes as opposed to those who don't want to.

You can argue the meaning of "exploit" but it's against the rules regardless. (And yes, it is exploiting the game's inability to resume the unskippable cutscene once the player logs back in.)

A split roulette would defeat the purpose of the roulette, which is to keep the queue moving for the sake of first-time players trying to get through the story. And if they did split it, the "no cutscenes" roulette wouldn't have the high rewards in the first place, because they are intended as compensation for your time. No cutscenes = nothing to compensate.

[Awha]

You...you just openly admitted to using an exploit on the public forum.

Yikes.

It may be considered an exploit but it seems like a fairly harmless one in my opinion, and if SE wants to take action against my account because of it so be it, do not lose much either way.

In the end, I do not see myself giving myself an advantage over others, nor am I using it with malicious intent. Only thing I am doing is making use of a flaw within SE system.