Beginning to really hate pvp

[Kraniel]

I just ignore PvE as a whole. I just do my daily, and that's it.

PvP in this game is absolutely amazing, but PvE has to be one of the worst i've experienced so far. There's no thrill to it, and even the savage trials itself is badly designed in my opinion. I wish we would just have a savage/extreme trials which are not scripted and memorized but actually required some skill like PvP. Everything in PvE can be quickly memorized and copy pasted to make constant clears, this is beyond casual level. There is no real difficulty in it whatsoever besides memorizing boss moves.

But in all seriousness:

PvP in FF14 is:
- The Feast - in my opinion the most personal skill based mode where you can actually prove how good you are with your job.
- Frontlines - meme, just a meme for yikes and fun
- Rival Wings - same as above, have fun and work on your job, but with more seriousness

A lot of times when I see people talking about pvp in ff14 - they only know FL, whenever I ask if they tried other modes, I hear either "no, I didn't tried them" or even more funny answers - "are there any other modes?".

@OP: If you hate FL so much but would like to enjoy PvP, you are welcome to try Feast, I recommend that.

Jeez ... I didn't mean to hurt you and i'm sorry if i did :/

I'm originally a PvP player myself, and i don't think FFXIV's PvP is good in its current state. That said, i agree that frontlines specifically is not doing justice to the devs' work, as it is just a giant mess.

For me PvP has always been about rivalry between factions/guilds, and huge, persisting maps where you could jump in and out anytime to get score for your side. It's just the whole idea of getting in a big "PvP area" and not knowing what to expect from other factions that i found thrilling. I liked that people from opposing guilds/factions could provoke you in town, and you would just say "FINE, LET'S SETTLE THIS ON THE BATTLEFIELD NOOBS", and you would bring your guildmates with you, and it would ultimately escalate to a huge GvG chaos that would last for hours.
This is the kind of stuff that i miss in FFXIV. I wish PvP felt more "connected" to the rest of the game, and that we could access it freely, without having to go through DF queues and requirements every time.