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  1. #81
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    Quote Originally Posted by DiznypKC View Post
    Please don’t nitpick words and then admit that you haven’t been around very long.

    A lot of us who’ve been maining healers since 2.0 and beyond, and are allowed to voice our opinions just as much as you.

    I used “we” to make it less personal. “We” as in the group of veteran healers who aren’t enjoying this new iteration of healers. That is a group. It exists. And, frankly, it doesn’t really matter if, in your opinion, it’s a minority or not.

    There are more retired healers out there than you may realize. Just because they aren’t rabidly posting on the forums doesn’t make them any less real. A lot of them simply gave up trying because other players harassed them or they simply believed that SE wouldn’t ever listen to them. The ones who are still around are tired of explaining the issues over and over again.
    lol.. what? Why do you keep waving this 'veteran healer' card over my head like that gives you some privilege..? I've main'd healer since HW launch and been a AST since it released. . I've seen all the ups and downs. So you can stop talking to me like I just bought the game with ShB. As a matter of fact, its a two way street. When you said "the group of veteran healers who aren’t enjoying this new iteration of healers" well guess what buddy.. there are also veteran healers who enjoy the new iteration of healers. So I dont know what to tell you. Guess just wait till another expansion comes out cause this conversation isnt going anywhere.
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  2. #82
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    Quote Originally Posted by GrimGale View Post
    Who does FFXIV ShB healing appeal to? Who enjoys barely using their healing spells and spamming 1 button over long stretches of time?

    SE wanted healers to be "conscious" apparently. To be mindful of their healer role but then, why did they make healing so unimportant?
    It appeals to me, Im enjoying the hell out of it.. actually this is the funniest expansion I've played, HW cutting close second. The savages are amazing, TEA is amazing, the story is amazing, crafters and gathers getting content, gear is amazing, music slaps. Spam click malefic and reapply combust every 30s. Not the most engaging but between handling boss mechanics, healing, managing cards, and dpsing, I'm comfy!
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  3. #83
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    Quote Originally Posted by Kummies View Post
    It appeals to me, Im enjoying the hell out of it.. actually this is the funniest expansion I've played, HW cutting close second. The savages are amazing, TEA is amazing, the story is amazing, crafters and gathers getting content, gear is amazing, music slaps. Spam click malefic and reapply combust every 30s. Not the most engaging but between handling boss mechanics, healing, managing cards, and dpsing, I'm comfy!
    I am really happy for you, really I am. I'm happy for you and the other twenty people who are enjoying AST more now than before, and aren't like many others playing AST merely because they enjoy the healer role most, and/or it's the job they've invested lots of time in, and/or they're hopeful that Squeenix will make needed QoL improvements so they're not clicking and retargeting dozens of times per minute for buffs which require parsing to know the time was better spent than spamming a nuke.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Side-Eye View Post
    I am really happy for you, really I am. I'm happy for you and the other twenty people who are enjoying AST more now than before, and aren't like many others playing AST merely because they enjoy the healer role most, and/or it's the job they've invested lots of time in, and/or they're hopeful that Squeenix will make needed QoL improvements so they're not clicking and retargeting dozens of times per minute for buffs which require parsing to know the time was better spent than spamming a nuke.
    I'm deathly curious about how the fact that someone has a different opinion then you makes you want to spew this passive-aggressive "I'm happy for you~" I'm so sorry that this game appeals to different people in different ways and the fact something you dislike is loved by others.

    I would wager the guess is a feeling of personal attachment to the old gameplay loop, which lead to a feeling of betrayal from a product deciding it needed to change it up.
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  6. #85
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    Quote Originally Posted by Brandedblade View Post
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    I see sarcasm is lost on you without emojis and words like "deathly". Sorry bout that. I'll do better next time.
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  7. #86
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    Quote Originally Posted by Brandedblade View Post
    I'm deathly curious about how the fact that someone has a different opinion then you makes you want to spew this passive-aggressive "I'm happy for you~" I'm so sorry that this game appeals to different people in different ways and the fact something you dislike is loved by others.

    I would wager the guess is a feeling of personal attachment to the old gameplay loop, which lead to a feeling of betrayal from a product deciding it needed to change it up.
    I dunno, why do you feel the need to go in threads just to announce you're only there to "watch them burn" or whatever it was?
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    Make SCH great again! Seriously though, we just want our class to be fun and engaging again, not OP, is that too much to ask for?

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    Quote Originally Posted by GrimGale View Post
    Who does FFXIV ShB healing appeal to? Who enjoys barely using their healing spells and spamming 1 button over long stretches of time?

    SE wanted healers to be "conscious" apparently. To be mindful of their healer role but then, why did they make healing so unimportant?
    Hmm...I love playing ast, because despite the simple rotation (which like it or not even sch has always had) it is incredibly flexible. It allows you to play very aggressively with the 1.5 Malefic and Gravity cast time and weave in all of its various abilities and its cards real nice and snappy like. And despite the homogenization of the card effects. I love the seal and Divination mechanic because to me, it's a very satisfying build up, with Divination being the climax. And no, I've found I dont need to use parses to gauge how much damage I'm adding to the group. Just observing how fast a group of mobs die when I do my first Sleeve/Divination combo of a dungeon, with everyone buffed between 7 to 12% stronger depending on rng. I love the use of tools like Lightspeed and Synastry to do powerful snappy spike heals on tanks when they need it. Playing hot potato with Essential Dignity while dpsing also is also rather engaging.


    For scholar. Here's my controversial hot take. Despite the simplification of the dps rotation. Sch still plays the same way it's always has. It's always been about managing your pet and aetherflow cooldowns. It actually does have a gameplay loop in the fae guage. Which means all your aetherflow skills have extra effective heal potency equivalent to either a Fey Blessing or a tick of Fey Union. Meaning even if you spent all of your aetherflow on energy drains you still have Gauge to spend. And with the fact the fairy automatically returns to you when Dissipation wears off, I've found it to be a very effective tool, whether to manage my mp and add damage with extra Energy Drains. Or even...*gasp* the 20% healing potency for situations where crap hits the fan and you actually do need to gcd heal. Yes the lack of fae guage during that time kinda hurts, but it's the only real drawback anymore. And if you say "It locks you out of your fairy skills" I say, "That's when you use your fairy skills first, then dissipate her."
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  9. #88
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    Quote Originally Posted by Billythepancake View Post
    I dunno, why do you feel the need to go in threads just to announce you're only there to "watch them burn" or whatever it was?
    I dunno, why do you have to build your entire internet persona around making a trump parody to express your own bitterness?
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  10. #89
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    Quote Originally Posted by Brandedblade View Post
    I dunno, why do you have to build your entire internet persona around making a trump parody to express your own bitterness?
    I didn't have to, nor did I, my friend drew a picture for me and I like it, so I use it.
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    Make SCH great again! Seriously though, we just want our class to be fun and engaging again, not OP, is that too much to ask for?

  11. #90
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    Quote Originally Posted by Billythepancake View Post
    I didn't have to, nor did I, my friend drew a picture for me and I like it, so I use it.
    I mean, even before you used that pic you where toting the "Make Scholar great again" signature. But ok, as you say.
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