Limited Job #2: Beastmaster

[Savagelf]

I agree with you Nephisto through I found that if you doing PF for blue magic spell it is pretty easy to do.

[Lambdafish]

Beastmaster always overlapped with Summoner from my experience; even in the single player games. You could summon monsters that were not traditionally summons like bombs, wyverns and cockatrice or however you say it. I say that because it begs the question, do we need beastmaster? I say sure.

Beastmaster always felt like Summoner to me, but a lesser version. It leads me to believe that beastmaster may function similar to the bahamut summon, instead of walking around with the pet. In that case, beastmaster could be a group job.

Except SMN has a huge identity issue in this game, and many complaints that people aren't getting the summons they want (egi glamour?). BST would suffer these problems as well as not feeling like BST at all.

[ReiMakoto]

Except SMN has a huge identity issue in this game, and many complaints that people aren't getting the summons they want (egi glamour?). BST would suffer these problems as well as not feeling like BST at all.

That depends what you expect out of BST, "not feeling like bst" to you might be a pet job with set pets, to me BST using set monsters for each gcd/ogcd would be feeling like bst.

[Lambdafish]

That depends what you expect out of BST, "not feeling like bst" to you might be a pet job with set pets, to me BST using set monsters for each gcd/ogcd would be feeling like bst.

That is one avenue that you could take I suppose. However you haven't addressed the rest of my post, i.e. the lack of summons on SMN, the poor implementation of them, and the huge backlash towards lack of egi glamour. The implementation of SMN in this game has been a meme since ARR launched, and is not a good framework to build BST around.

Anecdotal example from 6 years ago: https://www.reddit.com/r/ffxiv/comme..._but_as_a_smn/


Edit: Also, Yoshi P supports BST as a limited job, so I doubt your idea is the direction they want to take BST. https://youtu.be/UPh-GOdyRiA?t=5108

[kujoestars]

I feel like making Beastmaster also a gathering class MIGHT make it more feasible as a Limited. Considering you are playing a hunter specifically if I'm not mistaken, it could be a more reliable way of gathering skins for leather.

[Savagelf]

I think it be good thing to make bst I been said it be good for summoner because force SE to work out how they want complex pet job to be and allow them to exam summoner in turn to see what bst could teach them on improve summoner.

I like it to be tame pet job where you raise pets and fight along side them I think if I had my way they turn haul break isle into the stable for bst they go they stable they pet and unlock new ones there. you find stuff to unlock new pets in treasure chest and the like

[dinnertime]

That is one avenue that you could take I suppose. However you haven't addressed the rest of my post, i.e. the lack of summons on SMN, the poor implementation of them, and the huge backlash towards lack of egi glamour. The implementation of SMN in this game has been a meme since ARR launched, and is not a good framework to build BST around.

Anecdotal example from 6 years ago: https://www.reddit.com/r/ffxiv/comme..._but_as_a_smn/


Edit: Also, Yoshi P supports BST as a limited job, so I doubt your idea is the direction they want to take BST. https://youtu.be/UPh-GOdyRiA?t=5108

And it shouldn't because I don't want BST to be a SMN clone. We already have enough jobs that feel homogenized. Anyway, SMN is going at a better direction these days, and I assure you the backlash for the lack of egi glamour isn't "huge", lol. BST would fare better with that feature since all they have going is collecting random creatures like they're Pokemon.

[jon041065]

Make the "limited" aspect of BST something any job can do and then have BST be a full job that has different pets involved in different attacks like Rei said. Then whenever (if) they get back to egi glamour, unlock the ability for BST to swap some skins for pets around and some of these skins unlocked through the "beast taming" side content. To me that would be the best way to anger the least amount of people.

[Savagelf]

many see limit job as problem I see them as solution I see bst as chance improve summoner. first off bst should have some similatiry to hunter for wow but not much player should be able play bst along side blue mage the two party up and fight beast master should have ability to tame pet picture bst find baby Courel and raise them to adult through a process of lvls this ideal for swg but bst raise them to adult fight side with they pet. a hybrid pet job to view as

[Lambdafish]

many see limit job as problem I see them as solution

Many people in-game actually don't see limited jobs as a problem and have had a lot of fun with BLU since 5.1. The main people who have problems with BLU are people who either haven't leveled it or people who cannot live without it being a full job, no matter how good the content is.

Edit: I actually went through this entire post to verify my claim. Its a small portion size, but I hope it illustrates the point within this thread. Through all 22 pages there have been 30 people who have expressed displeasure or negativity against limited jobs, of those people, only 7 had actually levelled the job to 60, heck the vast majority hadn't even levelled it to 50. What we are seeing is negativity from people using third-hand information, and not actually having played what makes the job good (i.e. the improvements made in 5.1).

Let me repeat that, only 21% of the people complaining within this thread have actually played the endgame (i.e. the vast majority of content) of BLU.