Limited Job #2: Beastmaster

[Lambdafish]

Beastmaster always overlapped with Summoner from my experience; even in the single player games. You could summon monsters that were not traditionally summons like bombs, wyverns and cockatrice or however you say it. I say that because it begs the question, do we need beastmaster? I say sure.

Beastmaster always felt like Summoner to me, but a lesser version. It leads me to believe that beastmaster may function similar to the bahamut summon, instead of walking around with the pet. In that case, beastmaster could be a group job.

Except SMN has a huge identity issue in this game, and many complaints that people aren't getting the summons they want (egi glamour?). BST would suffer these problems as well as not feeling like BST at all.

[ReiMakoto]

Except SMN has a huge identity issue in this game, and many complaints that people aren't getting the summons they want (egi glamour?). BST would suffer these problems as well as not feeling like BST at all.

That depends what you expect out of BST, "not feeling like bst" to you might be a pet job with set pets, to me BST using set monsters for each gcd/ogcd would be feeling like bst.

[Lambdafish]

That depends what you expect out of BST, "not feeling like bst" to you might be a pet job with set pets, to me BST using set monsters for each gcd/ogcd would be feeling like bst.

That is one avenue that you could take I suppose. However you haven't addressed the rest of my post, i.e. the lack of summons on SMN, the poor implementation of them, and the huge backlash towards lack of egi glamour. The implementation of SMN in this game has been a meme since ARR launched, and is not a good framework to build BST around.

Anecdotal example from 6 years ago: https://www.reddit.com/r/ffxiv/comme..._but_as_a_smn/


Edit: Also, Yoshi P supports BST as a limited job, so I doubt your idea is the direction they want to take BST. https://youtu.be/UPh-GOdyRiA?t=5108

[dinnertime]

That is one avenue that you could take I suppose. However you haven't addressed the rest of my post, i.e. the lack of summons on SMN, the poor implementation of them, and the huge backlash towards lack of egi glamour. The implementation of SMN in this game has been a meme since ARR launched, and is not a good framework to build BST around.

Anecdotal example from 6 years ago: https://www.reddit.com/r/ffxiv/comme..._but_as_a_smn/


Edit: Also, Yoshi P supports BST as a limited job, so I doubt your idea is the direction they want to take BST. https://youtu.be/UPh-GOdyRiA?t=5108

And it shouldn't because I don't want BST to be a SMN clone. We already have enough jobs that feel homogenized. Anyway, SMN is going at a better direction these days, and I assure you the backlash for the lack of egi glamour isn't "huge", lol. BST would fare better with that feature since all they have going is collecting random creatures like they're Pokemon.