Option to unlock content without mandatory MSQ

[Kenky]

I've skipped almost the entire MSQ for various reasons, and yet I'm still around because I've found things I do enjoy. My non-story watching self has also spent far too much money on this game over the years. I can't imagine SE appreciates people being so quick to tell others that they shouldn't play XIV simply because they don't enjoy one facet of it.

I can't imagine SE being told that the main facet of their game is unwanted, so it goes both ways I wager.

On top of that, you know the "bits to round it out" i mentioned? The raids, the hunts, FATEs and all that? Well, welcome to the "rounding out" part. I enjoy the story and I enjoy the game, so I play every part I can. I'm not the one trying to get a game plenty of people to enjoy to change its main thing, because of whatever reason you may come up with.

[sauc]

I can't imagine SE being told that the main facet of their game is unwanted, so it goes both ways I wager.

On top of that, you know the "bits to round it out" i mentioned? The raids, the hunts, FATEs and all that? Well, welcome to the "rounding out" part. I enjoy the story and I enjoy the game, so I play every part I can. I'm not the one trying to get a game plenty of people to enjoy to change its main thing, because of whatever reason you may come up with.

It wouldn't change, not sure how many times I have to repeat it. You like the msq? Cool keep reading everything, I don't so I avoid it and everybody wins. There's no reason to believe the quality of it would drop down, there's already tons of ways to level your secondary classes ALREADY in game that exist only for that purpose. Roulettes potd/hoh fates sidequests exist almost solely for that purpose the only difference is now you would be able to do those on your starter class as well.

[linay]

There's no reason to believe the quality of it would drop down

Of course there is because how the game is played affects how the story would be experienced. If they make the story optional for people who don't like story, it's only fair that they make dungeons optional for people who don't like dungeons.

The next thing you know, you have a dungeon that doesn't have a story of why you're there or you have a story that doesn't go to any dungeon/raid.

[sauc]

Of course there is because how the game is played affects how the story would be experienced. If they make the story optional for people who don't like story, it's only fair that they make dungeons optional for people who don't like dungeons.

The next thing you know, you have a dungeon that doesn't have a story of why you're there or you have a story that doesn't go to any dungeon/raid.

Yep I agree with you, if you don't like dungeons you shouldn't have to either. And I'm thinking that's one of the reasons they created trusts too, so they feel more like your usual msq instanced events than a dungeon.

Dungeons don't have to be tied to the msq either that's just something square ended up doing. I can go into blackrock depths despite never having done searing gorge or burning steppes, but if I do want to know why I'm in there,I can go find out.

[linay]

Yep I agree with you, if you don't like dungeons you shouldn't have to either. And I'm thinking that's one of the reasons they created trusts too, so they feel more like your usual msq instanced events than a dungeon.

Dungeons don't have to be tied to the msq either that's just something square ended up doing. I can go into blackrock depths despite never having done searing gorge or burning steppes, but if I do want to know why I'm in there,I can go find out.

And that messes with the story. You want to do roulette, but you just reached a level that could get you a dungeon that you haven't done the story for (if there is one), there goes that roulette if you want to experience the story going into that dungeon.

And no, I don't think that dungeon should be optional. There are plenty of single player activities in this game.

[sauc]

And that messes with the story. You want to do roulette, but you just reached a level that could get you a dungeon that you haven't done the story for (if there is one), there goes that roulette if you want to experience the story going into that dungeon.

And no, I don't think that dungeon should be optional. There are plenty of single player activities in this game.

You're saying there's a large amount of people out there who would have their gaming experience ruined to the point of quitting over the fact that their dungeon,which they can still manually queue for, wasn't COMPLETELY chronological? If it's truly gamebreaking that much they can just leave. The thing even explains to you what the roulette does and shows you everything that's unlocked. What is someone doing rouletting in the first place anyway if they are all about the msq. This whole situation seems like some extreme cherry picked outlier.

It's only going to get worse as time goes on by the way, 6 years from now no amount of arr trimming will make up for having to go through 6 expansions before reaching endgame, it's not something they can keep ignoring.

Other games solve that problem by reducing the exp required to level or giving you a higher level character or whatever, but that's not helpful here since all it does is make you outlevel the msq that you have to do anyway.That's what road to 60 did for me when I started. Is the plan to just keep trimming and trimming and trimming until the story is a just a former shell of itself?

[linay]

You're saying there's a large amount of people out there who would have their gaming experience ruined to the point of quitting over the fact that their dungeon,which they can still manually queue for, wasn't COMPLETELY chronological? If it's truly gamebreaking that much they can just leave. The thing even explains to you what the roulette does and shows you everything that's unlocked. What is someone doing rouletting in the first place anyway if they are all about the msq. This whole situation seems like some extreme cherry picked outlier.

Roulette is one main way of gearing and leveling in this game. It shows how this change would affect people who do care about story. Just leave after you've entered a dungeon is not a solution.

It's only going to get worse as time goes on by the way, 6 years from now no amount of arr trimming will make up for having to go through 6 expansions before reaching endgame, it's not something they can keep ignoring.

Other games solve that problem by reducing the exp required to level or giving you a higher level character or whatever, but that's not helpful here since all it does is make you outlevel the msq that you have to do anyway.That's what road to 60 did for me when I started. Is the plan to just keep trimming and trimming and trimming until the story is a just a former shell of itself?

I don't see a problem. You do the story once per character or buy a jump potion.

[Skivvy]

I can't imagine SE being told that the main facet of their game is unwanted, so it goes both ways I wager.

On top of that, you know the "bits to round it out" i mentioned? The raids, the hunts, FATEs and all that? Well, welcome to the "rounding out" part. I enjoy the story and I enjoy the game, so I play every part I can. I'm not the one trying to get a game plenty of people to enjoy to change its main thing, because of whatever reason you may come up with.

As it's been pointed out many times now, no one is saying to get rid of the MSQ. Having things be optional doesn't mean they suddenly won't exist.

Also, there was no talk of rounding out anything in the post I copied my snippet from. You said that if someone doesn't like the MSQ, they probably shouldn't play XIV. I was just trying to point out what a stupid mindset that is, but in a slightly nicer way. I'll be more direct next time. :3